Comments on: Babyshambles – Shotters Nation http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/ Independent and alternative music in Scotland - with a shitload of gin. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:26:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1452 Matthew Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:35:44 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1452 Dirty Pretty Things is certainly a slightly misleading name though. Compared to James Blunt, maybe they are scruffy, but compared to the punky genre they're working in, anything but. Dirty Pretty Things is certainly a slightly misleading name though. Compared to James Blunt, maybe they are scruffy, but compared to the punky genre they’re working in, anything but.

]]> By: Ed http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1453 Ed Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:12:40 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1453 Dale, I do think its important that a band's name literally reflects their output. Many bands have been quite frankly laxidasical about their efforts to be anything other than nominally monikered. I feel Led Zeppelin are the most disappointing here. Dale, I do think its important that a band’s name literally reflects their output. Many bands have been quite frankly laxidasical about their efforts to be anything other than nominally monikered. I feel Led Zeppelin are the most disappointing here.

]]> By: Dale http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1456 Dale Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:30:49 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1456 "dirty pretty things" god that names complete bollocks theres no dirty beautiful music in carlos barats band if anything they should call babyshambles dirty pretty things as this album is slighty less rough than down in albion but it still shows a scruffy libertine look which we all love and miss to be honest with you i think all this talk of libertines reunion is rubbish pete's the only one who would consider the move for the music i think carl reckons it would be a good move because of all the attention and money he could out of it and maybe try and relight hopes of a sucessful dirty pretty things album “dirty pretty things” god that names complete bollocks theres no dirty beautiful music in carlos barats band if anything they should call babyshambles dirty pretty things as this album is slighty less rough than down in albion but it still shows a scruffy libertine look which we all love and miss to be honest with you i think all this talk of libertines reunion is rubbish pete’s the only one who would consider the move for the music i think carl reckons it would be a good move because of all the attention and money he could out of it and maybe try and relight hopes of a sucessful dirty pretty things album

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1454 Matthew Thu, 04 Oct 2007 08:30:51 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1454 I hadn't noticed that actually, but it is a little more morose a lot of the time isn't it. DPT were terrific live last year, but I've not heard anything of them since. Babyshambles are playing later this year, but it's in one of those big shitty arena things where I absolutely hate to see music. I hadn’t noticed that actually, but it is a little more morose a lot of the time isn’t it. DPT were terrific live last year, but I’ve not heard anything of them since. Babyshambles are playing later this year, but it’s in one of those big shitty arena things where I absolutely hate to see music.

]]> By: hannah http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1455 hannah Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:54:16 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1455 dirty pretty things stole their own name from their night club I do believe. dirty pretty things stole their own name from their night club I do believe.

]]> By: cruz http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1458 cruz Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:16:40 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1458 This is one of the better reviews on shotters nation that i have seen. While clearly this is a step in the right direction for doherty, it certainly isn't, like you say, a blistering return to form. The album has consistency (there are lots of good songs here) but unfortunately there are no classics. And yeah, i can see where your going in your doherty and barat comparison. I think barat brought the raw energy that you can feel when listing to the libs stuff. Shotters nation is quite sombre at times and i miss that energy. On the other hand DPTs have the hooks and solos but lyrically they're not quite as strong and not as scruffy! This is one of the better reviews on shotters nation that i have seen. While clearly this is a step in the right direction for doherty, it certainly isn’t, like you say, a blistering return to form. The album has consistency (there are lots of good songs here) but unfortunately there are no classics. And yeah, i can see where your going in your doherty and barat comparison. I think barat brought the raw energy that you can feel when listing to the libs stuff. Shotters nation is quite sombre at times and i miss that energy. On the other hand DPTs have the hooks and solos but lyrically they’re not quite as strong and not as scruffy!

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1457 Matthew Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:25:43 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1457 In the sense that everything is derivative or in the sense that there are a lot more innovative bands out there at the moment? In the sense that everything is derivative or in the sense that there are a lot more innovative bands out there at the moment?

]]> By: Reg http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1459 Reg Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:32:21 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1459 It's a shame anyway that the "Dirty Pretty Things" stole their name from one of the best bands in rock history: The Pretty Things. These old men are still much better than imitative kids like the Babyshambles. It’s a shame anyway that the “Dirty Pretty Things”
stole their name from one of the best bands in rock history: The Pretty Things.
These old men are still much better than imitative kids like the Babyshambles.

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1461 Matthew Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:16:15 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1461 I am relieved I managed not to offend you with this review actually Hannah, as I thought it might be a possibility. I think I am the other way around. I still prefer the hooks, although there is definitely a bit of substance lacking in the DPT album. It's not bad though, this. I was afraid I wouldn't like it but by and large I do. I am relieved I managed not to offend you with this review actually Hannah, as I thought it might be a possibility.

I think I am the other way around. I still prefer the hooks, although there is definitely a bit of substance lacking in the DPT album. It’s not bad though, this. I was afraid I wouldn’t like it but by and large I do.

]]> By: hannah http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1460 hannah Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:59:02 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/10/02/babyshambles-shotters-nation/#comment-1460 I completely agree with your "pattern" theory, I think that's why I tend to like babyshambles stuff over dirty pretty things - I always preferred the more scruffier libertines songs that were stronger in lyrics rather than polished melodies. but of course, the two together made the perfect songwriting combination. I completely agree with your “pattern” theory, I think that’s why I tend to like babyshambles stuff over dirty pretty things – I always preferred the more scruffier libertines songs that were stronger in lyrics rather than polished melodies. but of course, the two together made the perfect songwriting combination.

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