Comments on: Internet Tantrums http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/ Independent and alternative music in Scotland - with a shitload of gin. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:50:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: China http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1959 China Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:40:49 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1959 ...I was going to comment on your impressive use of "writerly knob-cheese" but Harry beat me to it. Also, I agree that the music categories were quite unimaginative this year and the only reason I voted was to get a vote in for The Big Takeover as Best Zine. …I was going to comment on your impressive use of “writerly knob-cheese” but Harry beat me to it.

Also, I agree that the music categories were quite unimaginative this year and the only reason I voted was to get a vote in for The Big Takeover as Best Zine.

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1949 Matthew Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:29:35 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1949 Eee, I should have known better than to bring this up again, I suspect. I really appreciate everyone's comments, but I am not trying to reignite the debate about who was right. I am just a little bit dismayed at how quickly the whole business descended into 'you're a retard' 'much better blogs than yours' and 'you bunch of whores' slanging. And it's silly too, as had that discussion taken place around a pub table I bet it could have been dead interesting. And there would have been no tantrums from anyone - even me! Eee, I should have known better than to bring this up again, I suspect.

I really appreciate everyone’s comments, but I am not trying to reignite the debate about who was right. I am just a little bit dismayed at how quickly the whole business descended into ‘you’re a retard’ ‘much better blogs than yours’ and ‘you bunch of whores’ slanging.

And it’s silly too, as had that discussion taken place around a pub table I bet it could have been dead interesting. And there would have been no tantrums from anyone – even me!

]]> By: Harry_Thabombshelter http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1950 Harry_Thabombshelter Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:32:26 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1950 I must say, I was very impressed with the turn of phrase, "Writerly Knob-Cheese". I agree, I find myself utterly turned off by the "Big Boys" because of the lack of voice. I think I have about 4 or so music blogs I check on a regular basis, and all of them are equally about the person as they are about the music. Thank you for contributing YOUR voice to the stale state of online discourse. I must say, I was very impressed with the turn of phrase, “Writerly Knob-Cheese”. I agree, I find myself utterly turned off by the “Big Boys” because of the lack of voice. I think I have about 4 or so music blogs I check on a regular basis, and all of them are equally about the person as they are about the music. Thank you for contributing YOUR voice to the stale state of online discourse.

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1952 Matthew Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:11:13 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1952 Just to reiterate, this post absolutely isn't about continuing that row, or justifying anything I may have said. I am just genuinely amazed at how quickly these things get out of hand. It's a shame really, because a lot of the time if the discussion were face to face it just wouldn't happen. I am not trying to absolve myself of blame either. Calling people a bunch of whores is hardly going to be helpful under those circumstances. Just to reiterate, this post absolutely isn’t about continuing that row, or justifying anything I may have said. I am just genuinely amazed at how quickly these things get out of hand. It’s a shame really, because a lot of the time if the discussion were face to face it just wouldn’t happen.

I am not trying to absolve myself of blame either. Calling people a bunch of whores is hardly going to be helpful under those circumstances.

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1951 Matthew Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:51:48 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1951 No Wendy, you said it right the first time. Political incorrectness will not be tolerated here on Song, by Toad. There will be immediate bans for anyone mocking spastics, retards, jews, nig.. oops, no perhaps not this early in the morning. Actually, I am not trying to justify my arguments there at all. I think I ended up being a too personal, and didn't quite have square in my head what I was trying to say before I said it, which would have helped. But I have been on other message boards before, including the Guardian's excellent talk site (got banned under two different pseudonyms and then gave up) and I am forever amazed by how quickly these things get out of hand. Things simmer along nicely enough for ages and then, boom, it all kicks off for no really obvious reason. No Wendy, you said it right the first time. Political incorrectness will not be tolerated here on Song, by Toad. There will be immediate bans for anyone mocking spastics, retards, jews, nig.. oops, no perhaps not this early in the morning.

Actually, I am not trying to justify my arguments there at all. I think I ended up being a too personal, and didn’t quite have square in my head what I was trying to say before I said it, which would have helped.

But I have been on other message boards before, including the Guardian’s excellent talk site (got banned under two different pseudonyms and then gave up) and I am forever amazed by how quickly these things get out of hand.

Things simmer along nicely enough for ages and then, boom, it all kicks off for no really obvious reason.

]]> By: wendy http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1956 wendy Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:14:40 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1956 ...and I meant to say "unafraid of being politically INcorrect" but you probably got my drift. …and I meant to say “unafraid of being politically INcorrect” but you probably got my drift.

]]> By: bill p http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1954 bill p Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:07:09 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1954 Must say that I was shocked by how many prominent bloggers post there. And act like idiots. (And I don't mean you, M.) Actually not so much the second part. Message boards: the forum for childish, defensive namecalling since whenever they invented the internet. -bill Must say that I was shocked by how many prominent bloggers post there. And act like idiots. (And I don’t mean you, M.) Actually not so much the second part. Message boards: the forum for childish, defensive namecalling since whenever they invented the internet.

-bill

]]> By: Drunk Country http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1953 Drunk Country Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:39:36 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1953 Hear! Hear! wendy. Where in the world would we be without taking that stick out of our arses every now & then & poking ourselves with it? Go get them, Mr. Toad, or should that be Tiger?<i>rrRRraaaWwwRr</i> Hear! Hear! wendy.

Where in the world would we be without taking that stick out of our arses every now & then & poking ourselves with it?

Go get them, Mr. Toad, or should that be Tiger?rrRRraaaWwwRr

]]> By: wendy http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1955 wendy Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:27:16 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1955 Mr. Toad, while I may not have been so blunt, I am in general agreement with you about the state of blogs these days...to stave off any critcism of this comment, I'll concede they are probably sick of me too (and I don't blame them...poor guys and gals are being bombarded daily by promobots). In any case, it seems I am taking more and more blogs off my reading list these days and only taking the time to check out the few who amuse me, apart from my job as a new media person for independent labels (hey, we're moving on from the blog world these days and into social networking anyway ;-). As a "music fan" and one who loves an entertaining turn of phrase and writers who don't take themselves and their role in the promotional machinery so seriously and are unafraid of being politically correct, I consider your site a bloody fucking gem. Mr. Toad, while I may not have been so blunt, I am in general agreement with you about the state of blogs these days…to stave off any critcism of this comment, I’ll concede they are probably sick of me too (and I don’t blame them…poor guys and gals are being bombarded daily by promobots).

In any case, it seems I am taking more and more blogs off my reading list these days and only taking the time to check out the few who amuse me, apart from my job as a new media person for independent labels (hey, we’re moving on from the blog world these days and into social networking anyway ;-) .

As a “music fan” and one who loves an entertaining turn of phrase and writers who don’t take themselves and their role in the promotional machinery so seriously and are unafraid of being politically correct, I consider your site a bloody fucking gem.

]]> By: colin http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/internet-tantrums/#comment-1957 colin Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:50:01 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/2007/11/20/internet-tantrums/#comment-1957 ...And now I'm back having read all 116 messages in the thread, so far. Lost for words. Except to say thanks for the shoutout, like they care... :) …And now I’m back having read all 116 messages in the thread, so far.

Lost for words.

Except to say thanks for the shoutout, like they care… :)

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