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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2227</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  I feel like a Greek man on London transport.  I hear the snapping of rubber gloves everywhere I turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  I feel like a Greek man on London transport.  I hear the snapping of rubber gloves everywhere I turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Campfires &#38; Battlefields</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2230</link>
		<dc:creator>Campfires &#38; Battlefields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see your name written on it. Feel a bit like the Hollies now, do we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see your name written on it. Feel a bit like the Hollies now, do we?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2229</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - that one&#039;s mine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; that one&#8217;s mine!</p>
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		<title>By: Campfires &#38; Battlefields</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2231</link>
		<dc:creator>Campfires &#38; Battlefields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a ratty old growler.</description>
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		<title>By: Drunk Country</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2228</link>
		<dc:creator>Drunk Country</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, you cunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, you cunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2232</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck off Mentok.</description>
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		<title>By: Mentok the Mindtaker</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2233</link>
		<dc:creator>Mentok the Mindtaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, now that the books are closed on this debate, just for giggles I decided to run a few tallies on the use of words:

Fuck 23
Shit 8
Stupid 5
Cunt 5
Piss 3
Idiot 2
Suck 2
Bastard 1

And yet, for all of that, it was an entirely cheerful, intelligent debate amongst people who (I think) more or less like or at least tolerate each other.

What fun! A couple years ago I succeeded in thoroughly pissing off a fellow blogger b/c I jokingly called him a &quot;doity bastid&quot;. May I say you fellows are a much more genial lot ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, now that the books are closed on this debate, just for giggles I decided to run a few tallies on the use of words:</p>
<p>Fuck 23<br />
Shit 8<br />
Stupid 5<br />
Cunt 5<br />
Piss 3<br />
Idiot 2<br />
Suck 2<br />
Bastard 1</p>
<p>And yet, for all of that, it was an entirely cheerful, intelligent debate amongst people who (I think) more or less like or at least tolerate each other.</p>
<p>What fun! A couple years ago I succeeded in thoroughly pissing off a fellow blogger b/c I jokingly called him a &#8220;doity bastid&#8221;. May I say you fellows are a much more genial lot <img src='http://songbytoad.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2234</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds much more fun than colouring in.

Cunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds much more fun than colouring in.</p>
<p>Cunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Drunk Country</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2235</link>
		<dc:creator>Drunk Country</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re quite right, of course, Mr. T. but I didn&#039;t say the airport security personnel/stop &amp; search procedures are perfect or are 100% on top of things - they&#039;re simply doing their best under very heavy, ill-informed scrutiny from a public that want perfection well beyond any ability to provide as much in a continually evolving environment.  &amp; when something goes wrong it&#039;s the same public who scream at them that they didn&#039;t do enough.

I was simply stating the reason these things exist &amp; that they do exist for a very good reason.  You may think they don&#039;t a&amp;effect or prevent anything untoward happening, but believe me they do &amp; have &amp; continue to do so.  Most don&#039;t see it, because they are too busy complaining they are being treated like animals, which is why you/they/most have the opinions you/they/most have.

What people are mistaking for SECURITY is the physical presence of the uniformed men &amp; women staffing the x-ray machines — these may happily consider themselves security personnel, but they are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; the policy makers; they simply perform whatever function they are directed to do so by their heads of department based on procedure informed by daily intel &amp; the state of the security of the country as a whole.  It&#039;s not as straightforward as that, but I have simplified it for the sake of ease of explanation.

What you have is, at best, a best practice procedure in the face of insurmountable odds.  The trouble is the General Public &amp; its lack of compassion &amp; understanding in such situations.  They simply think it&#039;s a personal affront/attack on their way of life/freedom/whatever &amp; do not regard the wider picture.  All they do (see above comments) is point out flaws &amp; take what they consider to be the moral high ground, rather than think &lt;i&gt;ooh, hang on... I guess I should be a little more flexible &amp;, above all, vigilant in these rather trying times&lt;/i&gt; &amp; let people get on with doing the best they can in their jobs without butting in.

&lt;i&gt;Of course&lt;/i&gt; there are contradictions in terms of what can &amp; can&#039;t be taken on board but getting all &#039;a-ha-haaaaa!&#039; about it is a little bit weak, don&#039;t you think?  What they (&amp; I have to clarify this is a UK &#039;they&#039; not a worldwide &#039;they&#039;) have done is drawn up a list of standard carry on items that are considered to potentially pose a risk.  Other objects, random objects, are usually dealt with on an individual basis when they arise at the security area — most are picked up &amp; confiscated, some are not considered a risk, some are missed entirely. I can&#039;t account for why either way, so won&#039;t even try.  All I know is I wouldn&#039;t want to be doing any of those frontline jobs because they rarely receive any respect/sanity from the public.

As for the Agent Cody Banks status - nothing so glamorous or exciting I&#039;m afraid.  I am loosely defined as an &lt;i&gt;ahem&lt;/i&gt; expert in emergency/hostile environments &amp; the survival therein/of; specialising, to a degree, in escape &amp; evasion, &amp; CBRN (Chemical, Biological, Radiological &amp; Nuclear) detection / response / counter measures. i.e. counter terrorism + domestic/homeland security, amongst other &#039;survival/safety&#039; areas under a fairly broad remit.

I (i.e. through the company that employs me) work with both UK &amp; USA &amp; EU military, homeland security &amp; police forces, as well as a whole bunch of departments/organisations normal people would never ever know about.  We also work closely with all the NGOs (Non Governmental Organisations)/Humanitarian Aid Agencies (UN/WFP/WHO/ICRC/etc) on disaster response/relief/preparation. &amp;, finally, as a nice cheeky aside I get to be chummy with the likes of Ray Mears &amp; Bear Grylls &amp; a whole host of other survivalists.

DC



I for one love flying, I like airports, I respect the rules in airports &amp; understand why some of the more difficult to palate rules exist.  I fly internationally &amp; domestically at least 10 times a year &amp; I witness arseholes on every trip who have no respect whatsoever for the airline staff, their very difficult job &amp; the security issues involved in securing such huge compendiums of commerce such as an airport.

All I see is arguing for argument&#039;s sake because, well, goes the argument, that&#039;s how the human machine is built &amp; why not exercise that ability?

I&#039;m at a loss as to why people get so annoyed with airports - the procedure for air travel is hugely simple (even simpler these days since on-line check-in exists for most major airlines), their guidelines are availble on websites &amp; you can ask people what the rules/restrictions are on the telephone; all over the airport before you check in &amp; as you go through security there are signs telling you you cannot send stuff through</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re quite right, of course, Mr. T. but I didn&#8217;t say the airport security personnel/stop &amp; search procedures are perfect or are 100% on top of things &#8211; they&#8217;re simply doing their best under very heavy, ill-informed scrutiny from a public that want perfection well beyond any ability to provide as much in a continually evolving environment.  &amp; when something goes wrong it&#8217;s the same public who scream at them that they didn&#8217;t do enough.</p>
<p>I was simply stating the reason these things exist &amp; that they do exist for a very good reason.  You may think they don&#8217;t a&amp;effect or prevent anything untoward happening, but believe me they do &amp; have &amp; continue to do so.  Most don&#8217;t see it, because they are too busy complaining they are being treated like animals, which is why you/they/most have the opinions you/they/most have.</p>
<p>What people are mistaking for SECURITY is the physical presence of the uniformed men &amp; women staffing the x-ray machines — these may happily consider themselves security personnel, but they are <i>not</i> the policy makers; they simply perform whatever function they are directed to do so by their heads of department based on procedure informed by daily intel &amp; the state of the security of the country as a whole.  It&#8217;s not as straightforward as that, but I have simplified it for the sake of ease of explanation.</p>
<p>What you have is, at best, a best practice procedure in the face of insurmountable odds.  The trouble is the General Public &amp; its lack of compassion &amp; understanding in such situations.  They simply think it&#8217;s a personal affront/attack on their way of life/freedom/whatever &amp; do not regard the wider picture.  All they do (see above comments) is point out flaws &amp; take what they consider to be the moral high ground, rather than think <i>ooh, hang on&#8230; I guess I should be a little more flexible &amp;, above all, vigilant in these rather trying times</i> &amp; let people get on with doing the best they can in their jobs without butting in.</p>
<p><i>Of course</i> there are contradictions in terms of what can &amp; can&#8217;t be taken on board but getting all &#8216;a-ha-haaaaa!&#8217; about it is a little bit weak, don&#8217;t you think?  What they (&amp; I have to clarify this is a UK &#8216;they&#8217; not a worldwide &#8216;they&#8217;) have done is drawn up a list of standard carry on items that are considered to potentially pose a risk.  Other objects, random objects, are usually dealt with on an individual basis when they arise at the security area — most are picked up &amp; confiscated, some are not considered a risk, some are missed entirely. I can&#8217;t account for why either way, so won&#8217;t even try.  All I know is I wouldn&#8217;t want to be doing any of those frontline jobs because they rarely receive any respect/sanity from the public.</p>
<p>As for the Agent Cody Banks status &#8211; nothing so glamorous or exciting I&#8217;m afraid.  I am loosely defined as an <i>ahem</i> expert in emergency/hostile environments &amp; the survival therein/of; specialising, to a degree, in escape &amp; evasion, &amp; CBRN (Chemical, Biological, Radiological &amp; Nuclear) detection / response / counter measures. i.e. counter terrorism + domestic/homeland security, amongst other &#8216;survival/safety&#8217; areas under a fairly broad remit.</p>
<p>I (i.e. through the company that employs me) work with both UK &amp; USA &amp; EU military, homeland security &amp; police forces, as well as a whole bunch of departments/organisations normal people would never ever know about.  We also work closely with all the NGOs (Non Governmental Organisations)/Humanitarian Aid Agencies (UN/WFP/WHO/ICRC/etc) on disaster response/relief/preparation. &amp;, finally, as a nice cheeky aside I get to be chummy with the likes of Ray Mears &amp; Bear Grylls &amp; a whole host of other survivalists.</p>
<p>DC</p>
<p>I for one love flying, I like airports, I respect the rules in airports &amp; understand why some of the more difficult to palate rules exist.  I fly internationally &amp; domestically at least 10 times a year &amp; I witness arseholes on every trip who have no respect whatsoever for the airline staff, their very difficult job &amp; the security issues involved in securing such huge compendiums of commerce such as an airport.</p>
<p>All I see is arguing for argument&#8217;s sake because, well, goes the argument, that&#8217;s how the human machine is built &amp; why not exercise that ability?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m at a loss as to why people get so annoyed with airports &#8211; the procedure for air travel is hugely simple (even simpler these days since on-line check-in exists for most major airlines), their guidelines are availble on websites &amp; you can ask people what the rules/restrictions are on the telephone; all over the airport before you check in &amp; as you go through security there are signs telling you you cannot send stuff through</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/01/airports-could-hell-be-much-worse/#comment-2238</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know - my brother got confused with &#039;Ben Young - International Criminal Mastermind&#039; when he was getting his green card for the States.  Now I think we have Song, by Toad&#039;s very own Secret Squirrel on the books.  At the risk of igniting a new Valerie Plame scandal, I think we have a dark horse on our hands here.

Who knows what dastardly things he may be plotting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know &#8211; my brother got confused with &#8216;Ben Young &#8211; International Criminal Mastermind&#8217; when he was getting his green card for the States.  Now I think we have Song, by Toad&#8217;s very own Secret Squirrel on the books.  At the risk of igniting a new Valerie Plame scandal, I think we have a dark horse on our hands here.</p>
<p>Who knows what dastardly things he may be plotting!</p>
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