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		<title>By: spacehotel</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/05/i-wasnt-always-like-this-yknow/#comment-4825</link>
		<dc:creator>spacehotel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seven and the ragged tiger was the first album I bought too and I was around 9.

Paul (Spacehotel)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seven and the ragged tiger was the first album I bought too and I was around 9.</p>
<p>Paul (Spacehotel)<br />
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See I&#039;ve only recently found that out.  I always thought of them exclusively in relation to La Bamba (the radio version, too) and only recently discovered there was a hell of a lot more to them than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See I&#8217;ve only recently found that out.  I always thought of them exclusively in relation to La Bamba (the radio version, too) and only recently discovered there was a hell of a lot more to them than that.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what&#039;s wrong with La Bamba?
I jus got Richie Valens compilation (and in Singapore too) and it&#039;s a darn sight more exciting than much modern music I&#039;ve heard recently. Don&#039;t remember the La Bamba movie giving such an impression of him being able to hold his own in the wide-boy badass rocker greaser recorded lo-fi and loud dept. I think Clinic must have heard this stuff though.

Were you in Singapore when Los Lobos played there? It was a school night I think but I heard they blew the roof off the place - a discoteque in Orchard Rd -  and their version of La Bamba that night was a 20 minute garage rock version that foxed all those Rick Astley era people who probably thought it was a novelty record unaware that Los Lobos are a crack unit who know their Hank to Hendrix and Waits and Thompson and muchos more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what&#8217;s wrong with La Bamba?<br />
I jus got Richie Valens compilation (and in Singapore too) and it&#8217;s a darn sight more exciting than much modern music I&#8217;ve heard recently. Don&#8217;t remember the La Bamba movie giving such an impression of him being able to hold his own in the wide-boy badass rocker greaser recorded lo-fi and loud dept. I think Clinic must have heard this stuff though.</p>
<p>Were you in Singapore when Los Lobos played there? It was a school night I think but I heard they blew the roof off the place &#8211; a discoteque in Orchard Rd &#8211;  and their version of La Bamba that night was a 20 minute garage rock version that foxed all those Rick Astley era people who probably thought it was a novelty record unaware that Los Lobos are a crack unit who know their Hank to Hendrix and Waits and Thompson and muchos more.</p>
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		<title>By: Drunk Country</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drunk Country</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure as hell was.  He played lead guitar.</description>
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		<title>By: China</title>
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		<dc:creator>China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 03:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind all that, Billy West was in a band with Deborah Harry and Penn??</description>
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		<title>By: Drunk Country</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drunk Country</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve rarely gone to shows alone (I’m shy, see) but I have &#039;tracked&#039; a producer&#039;s work.

Mark Kramer, or &lt;i&gt;Kramer&lt;/i&gt;, of (as far as I am concerned) God.

His passion for music was/is incredible &amp; he&#039;s been involved with some of the most notable bands over the last 15 or so years. The easiest point to begin with him was as a bassist in &lt;i&gt;The Butthole Surfers&lt;/i&gt; for their rather destructive European Tour back in the late &#039;80s - the one I fkng missed &amp; the one where they destroyed the Newport Leisure centre 20 miles down the road from my old home town.

The money he made for that led to him opening his &lt;b&gt;Noise New York&lt;/b&gt; recording studio - the &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; reason I ever wanted to go to the US when I was a kid, as he had an open door policy &amp; openly welcomed people through the doors to shake hands, drown in coffee &amp; generally shoot the breeze.  From there he started the &lt;i&gt;Shimmy Disc&lt;/i&gt; label &amp; over the years (prior to &lt;i&gt;Shimmy Disc&lt;/i&gt; being bankrupted/bought out by the &lt;i&gt;Knitting Factory&lt;/i&gt; label &amp; following a crippling legal &#039;divorce&#039; from &lt;i&gt;Ann Magnuson&lt;/i&gt;, his &lt;i&gt;Bongwater&lt;/i&gt; partner) discovered, managed, toured with as sound engineer &amp; musician, produced &amp; mixed the likes of:

&lt;i&gt;Galaxie 500 (whose entire oeuvre he produced), Low (whom he discovered &amp; produced),  Danielson Famile, Will Oldham&#039;s Palace Songs, Daniel Johnston, GWAR, King Missile, Dogbowl, Paleface, Beck, Dot Allison, Shockabilly, B.A.L.L., Bongwater, Ween, Half Japanese, The Fugs (played bass on their reunion tour), Allen Ginsberg (yes, the poet), John Zorn, Alice Donut, Jellyfish Kiss, Urge Overkill&#039;s (their &quot;Girl, You&#039;ll Be A Woman Soon&quot; hit single for Tarantino&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Pulp Fiction&lt;/b&gt;, Penn &amp; Teller (he was a sound engineer/score writer for a host of their Broadway shows &amp; won a Tony as a result + was in a band, &lt;i&gt;The Captain Howdy&lt;/i&gt;, with &lt;i&gt;Penn&lt;/i&gt; + &lt;i&gt;Deborah Harry&lt;/i&gt; &amp; &lt;i&gt;Billy West&lt;/i&gt; (of Ren &amp; Stimpy fame) - notable for their cover of &lt;b&gt;Always Something There To Remind Me&lt;/b&gt; &amp; for having a song written for them by &lt;i&gt;Lou Reed&lt;/i&gt;), When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water, Steve Shelley (Sonic Youth), Eugene Chadbourne, Rebby Sharp, The Nightjars, Daevid Allen (as in Soft Machine &amp; Gong), Hugh Hopper (Soft Machine), Damon &amp; Naomi, Das Damen, Marc Ribot (Tom Waits, The Black Keys, David Sylvian + stupid amounts of others), Syd Straw, Shonen Knife, Fred Frith &amp; Milksop Holly.&lt;/i&gt;  Amongst a hell of a lot more.

Of the original (approx.) 103 vinyl &amp; CD releases (there were some videos &amp; merchandise items released on the Shim catalogue numbers also, which buggers up the chronology a bit) I have 85 of them.  There are also a shit load of off-shoots &amp; one offs &amp; etc &amp; so forths that I have my hands on (I used to buy direct from &lt;i&gt;Kramer/Shimmy Disc&lt;/i&gt;, then from &lt;i&gt;Shimmy Disc Europe&lt;/i&gt; when the $ hit the floor, then &lt;i&gt;Knitting Factory&lt;/i&gt; when &lt;i&gt;SD&lt;/i&gt; was sold, then Ebay when I couldn’t find anywhere else &amp; there was this one German guy &amp; a Dutch guy who seemed to be forever selling their &lt;i&gt;SD&lt;/i&gt; back catalogue off…).

Now, following some self-imposed wilderness years, a clutch of sporadically released but brilliant (if you like psych-pop/rock, that is) solo albums – including one I’m seriously looking forward to: &lt;b&gt;The Brill Building&lt;/b&gt;, his f5-year effort to bring new life to a collection of hit singles written in the Brill Building in the late 50&#039;s &amp; early 60&#039;s.

&amp;, yes, I would consider my appreciation of this guy’s work obsessive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve rarely gone to shows alone (I’m shy, see) but I have &#8216;tracked&#8217; a producer&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>Mark Kramer, or <i>Kramer</i>, of (as far as I am concerned) God.</p>
<p>His passion for music was/is incredible &amp; he&#8217;s been involved with some of the most notable bands over the last 15 or so years. The easiest point to begin with him was as a bassist in <i>The Butthole Surfers</i> for their rather destructive European Tour back in the late &#8217;80s &#8211; the one I fkng missed &amp; the one where they destroyed the Newport Leisure centre 20 miles down the road from my old home town.</p>
<p>The money he made for that led to him opening his <b>Noise New York</b> recording studio &#8211; the <i>only</i> reason I ever wanted to go to the US when I was a kid, as he had an open door policy &amp; openly welcomed people through the doors to shake hands, drown in coffee &amp; generally shoot the breeze.  From there he started the <i>Shimmy Disc</i> label &amp; over the years (prior to <i>Shimmy Disc</i> being bankrupted/bought out by the <i>Knitting Factory</i> label &amp; following a crippling legal &#8216;divorce&#8217; from <i>Ann Magnuson</i>, his <i>Bongwater</i> partner) discovered, managed, toured with as sound engineer &amp; musician, produced &amp; mixed the likes of:</p>
<p><i>Galaxie 500 (whose entire oeuvre he produced), Low (whom he discovered &amp; produced),  Danielson Famile, Will Oldham&#8217;s Palace Songs, Daniel Johnston, GWAR, King Missile, Dogbowl, Paleface, Beck, Dot Allison, Shockabilly, B.A.L.L., Bongwater, Ween, Half Japanese, The Fugs (played bass on their reunion tour), Allen Ginsberg (yes, the poet), John Zorn, Alice Donut, Jellyfish Kiss, Urge Overkill&#8217;s (their &#8220;Girl, You&#8217;ll Be A Woman Soon&#8221; hit single for Tarantino&#8217;s </i><i>Pulp Fiction, Penn &amp; Teller (he was a sound engineer/score writer for a host of their Broadway shows &amp; won a Tony as a result + was in a band, </i><i>The Captain Howdy</i>, with <i>Penn</i> + <i>Deborah Harry</i> &amp; <i>Billy West</i> (of Ren &amp; Stimpy fame) &#8211; notable for their cover of <b>Always Something There To Remind Me</b> &amp; for having a song written for them by <i>Lou Reed</i>), When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water, Steve Shelley (Sonic Youth), Eugene Chadbourne, Rebby Sharp, The Nightjars, Daevid Allen (as in Soft Machine &amp; Gong), Hugh Hopper (Soft Machine), Damon &amp; Naomi, Das Damen, Marc Ribot (Tom Waits, The Black Keys, David Sylvian + stupid amounts of others), Syd Straw, Shonen Knife, Fred Frith &amp; Milksop Holly.  Amongst a hell of a lot more.</p>
<p>Of the original (approx.) 103 vinyl &amp; CD releases (there were some videos &amp; merchandise items released on the Shim catalogue numbers also, which buggers up the chronology a bit) I have 85 of them.  There are also a shit load of off-shoots &amp; one offs &amp; etc &amp; so forths that I have my hands on (I used to buy direct from <i>Kramer/Shimmy Disc</i>, then from <i>Shimmy Disc Europe</i> when the $ hit the floor, then <i>Knitting Factory</i> when <i>SD</i> was sold, then Ebay when I couldn’t find anywhere else &amp; there was this one German guy &amp; a Dutch guy who seemed to be forever selling their <i>SD</i> back catalogue off…).</p>
<p>Now, following some self-imposed wilderness years, a clutch of sporadically released but brilliant (if you like psych-pop/rock, that is) solo albums – including one I’m seriously looking forward to: <b>The Brill Building</b>, his f5-year effort to bring new life to a collection of hit singles written in the Brill Building in the late 50&#8242;s &amp; early 60&#8242;s.</p>
<p>&amp;, yes, I would consider my appreciation of this guy’s work obsessive.</p>
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		<title>By: China</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d never been introduced to bands via friends or boys until college, sadly. My parents are a bit younger and did things a bit backward, so while my mom would play the Cramps or Kate Bush for me when I was five, I&#039;d never heard an album by the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix (or anyone else that important, really) until I took the initiative when I was around twenty. My first record (bought by my parents when I was three) was Michael Jackson&#039;s &quot;Bad,&quot; and I think my first cassette was the Vanilla Ice...erm...debut, but after a childhood of rebelling against my parents&#039; punk tendencies and enjoying dance music/rap, I transitioned to rock when we moved and my walkman could no longer pick up the frequencies of my usual rap station.

Indie didn&#039;t happen until college, when working at our campus radio station taught me about options beyond mainstream radio, and that all the records I hadn&#039;t heard of at the used record shop could actually hold some good possibilities. Interestingly enough, though, it was watching punk videos at 1am on Saturday nights during high school that introduced me to the (International) Noise Conspiracy and the Hives, opening up my taste to garage rock and taking me out of an emo phase. For that, I&#039;m appreciative.

Toad, maybe you&#039;ve mentioned it before and I missed it, but were you an army brat? I&#039;d never thought to ask why you lived in so many countries, but I&#039;m curious now.

And does going to shows alone and tracking a producer&#039;s work really make you an obsessive? Fuck me, then. Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never been introduced to bands via friends or boys until college, sadly. My parents are a bit younger and did things a bit backward, so while my mom would play the Cramps or Kate Bush for me when I was five, I&#8217;d never heard an album by the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix (or anyone else that important, really) until I took the initiative when I was around twenty. My first record (bought by my parents when I was three) was Michael Jackson&#8217;s &#8220;Bad,&#8221; and I think my first cassette was the Vanilla Ice&#8230;erm&#8230;debut, but after a childhood of rebelling against my parents&#8217; punk tendencies and enjoying dance music/rap, I transitioned to rock when we moved and my walkman could no longer pick up the frequencies of my usual rap station.</p>
<p>Indie didn&#8217;t happen until college, when working at our campus radio station taught me about options beyond mainstream radio, and that all the records I hadn&#8217;t heard of at the used record shop could actually hold some good possibilities. Interestingly enough, though, it was watching punk videos at 1am on Saturday nights during high school that introduced me to the (International) Noise Conspiracy and the Hives, opening up my taste to garage rock and taking me out of an emo phase. For that, I&#8217;m appreciative.</p>
<p>Toad, maybe you&#8217;ve mentioned it before and I missed it, but were you an army brat? I&#8217;d never thought to ask why you lived in so many countries, but I&#8217;m curious now.</p>
<p>And does going to shows alone and tracking a producer&#8217;s work really make you an obsessive? Fuck me, then. Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duran Duran were one of my first musical purchases too. Only it wasn&#039;t via my mother, but rather my sister (who dreamed of marrying Simon Le Bon, only to be crushed when he married Yasmin).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duran Duran were one of my first musical purchases too. Only it wasn&#8217;t via my mother, but rather my sister (who dreamed of marrying Simon Le Bon, only to be crushed when he married Yasmin).</p>
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		<title>By: mjrc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m so old that i can&#039;t even remember the first album i bought, but i do remember my first obsession. a boy i had a big thing for introduced me to todd rundgren via something/anything and i was hooked. i bought every album he put out until the early 80s. he was definitely the most influential musician i ever listened to, in fact he was kind of the pioneer of all these diy guys who sit at home and make music in their bedrooms, only he did it thirty years or more ago.

i will admit to a healthy hall and oates fixation, carly simon, james taylor, neil young and jackson browne. in the eighties i found the music scene to be way too air-supplyish and journey-ish for my taste and i got into really old stuff, jazz standards and such. i came back to life in the mid-to-late 90s and i&#039;d say the love affair with music has been steadily intensifying since then, only now i&#039;m drawn to smaller and smaller bands and tinier and more intimate venues. the thought of going to a coliseum or stadium gig makes me want to throw up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m so old that i can&#8217;t even remember the first album i bought, but i do remember my first obsession. a boy i had a big thing for introduced me to todd rundgren via something/anything and i was hooked. i bought every album he put out until the early 80s. he was definitely the most influential musician i ever listened to, in fact he was kind of the pioneer of all these diy guys who sit at home and make music in their bedrooms, only he did it thirty years or more ago.</p>
<p>i will admit to a healthy hall and oates fixation, carly simon, james taylor, neil young and jackson browne. in the eighties i found the music scene to be way too air-supplyish and journey-ish for my taste and i got into really old stuff, jazz standards and such. i came back to life in the mid-to-late 90s and i&#8217;d say the love affair with music has been steadily intensifying since then, only now i&#8217;m drawn to smaller and smaller bands and tinier and more intimate venues. the thought of going to a coliseum or stadium gig makes me want to throw up!</p>
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		<title>By: Drunk Country</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to say the actual first record I bought myself, with my own money, was the &lt;i&gt;When Doves Cry&lt;/i&gt; 7&quot;.  Everything up until that point was fuelled by my father&#039;s neverending generosity (he knew a music anorak when he birthed one) &amp; my &lt;i&gt;cun-i-av&lt;/i&gt; sleeve tugging, along with very perceptive Birthday/Christmas/etc. gift buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to say the actual first record I bought myself, with my own money, was the <i>When Doves Cry</i> 7&#8243;.  Everything up until that point was fuelled by my father&#8217;s neverending generosity (he knew a music anorak when he birthed one) &amp; my <i>cun-i-av</i> sleeve tugging, along with very perceptive Birthday/Christmas/etc. gift buying.</p>
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