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	<title>Comments on: The Low Lows &#8211; Live, The Ark, Edinburgh, Tuesday 29th April&#160;2008</title>
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		<title>By: Euan</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/05/the-low-lows-live-the-ark-edinburgh-tuesday-29th-april-2008/#comment-4552</link>
		<dc:creator>Euan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t think bands should tell people to shut up from stage - have seen it done and cringed at times - that said, more than happy for other audience members/sound engineers etc to tell the ignorant bastards to remember that they just paid money to watch people perform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t think bands should tell people to shut up from stage &#8211; have seen it done and cringed at times &#8211; that said, more than happy for other audience members/sound engineers etc to tell the ignorant bastards to remember that they just paid money to watch people perform.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they know how to behave themselves in your day, JC?  I don&#039;t for a second think that they did.

And believe me, I have told a few folk to shut the fuck up in my time, just in this case it was the entire venue.  Bellowing at everyone to be quiet just seemed logistically difficult.  The sound guy tried it and was roundly ignored, and short of going round every obnoxiously loud conversation and threatening them there wasn&#039;t a lot to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did they know how to behave themselves in your day, JC?  I don&#8217;t for a second think that they did.</p>
<p>And believe me, I have told a few folk to shut the fuck up in my time, just in this case it was the entire venue.  Bellowing at everyone to be quiet just seemed logistically difficult.  The sound guy tried it and was roundly ignored, and short of going round every obnoxiously loud conversation and threatening them there wasn&#8217;t a lot to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah...the thing is I&#039;m not afraid to tell anyone who is talking while a band is playing to shut the fuck up. And those tend to be my exact words.

Its not just thoughtless inconsiderate bastards who do it either.

Tindersticks at the Liquid Rooms a few years ago saw me turn round and utter my catchphrase to Colin McIntyre and other sundry members of Mull Historical Society who had been the actual support band. He seemed bemused that someone would have the temerity to talk to him like that....and it was only when I spoke to hime a second time that he moved away out of range. On a point of principle, I have never listened to any of the band&#039;s songs since.

A few weeks ago some rather mature folk (ie my own age) were really loud while not paying attention to Pop-Up at the Oran Mor in Glasgow - to be fair, I didnt swear this time but still went over to where they were sitting with their backs to the stage oblivious to what was going on.  It was only when the next act - We Were Promised Jetpacks - came on did it become clear that the talkers were in fact the mums/dads/aunties/uncles of the Jetpacks.

I think the worst though had to be the wankers at Malcolm Middleton at Classic Grand in Glasgow. There we were, right down at the front when all of a sudden, in the middle of the quietest song in the middle of the gig, two drunken pricks barge in from nowhere and begin a conversation with their two mates, and I kid you not, about the price of a bottle of lager at the venue.  I threw a punch at one of them....

I&#039;ve been to  recent gigs by Edwyn Collins, Neil Young, Billy Bragg, Morrissey and Aiden Moffat where the average age of the audience was that bit higher.  Funny thing is....no-one seemed to do anything but show the utmost respect to the artists.

Seems its the young folk just dont know how to behave themselves properly nowadays....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;the thing is I&#8217;m not afraid to tell anyone who is talking while a band is playing to shut the fuck up. And those tend to be my exact words.</p>
<p>Its not just thoughtless inconsiderate bastards who do it either.</p>
<p>Tindersticks at the Liquid Rooms a few years ago saw me turn round and utter my catchphrase to Colin McIntyre and other sundry members of Mull Historical Society who had been the actual support band. He seemed bemused that someone would have the temerity to talk to him like that&#8230;.and it was only when I spoke to hime a second time that he moved away out of range. On a point of principle, I have never listened to any of the band&#8217;s songs since.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago some rather mature folk (ie my own age) were really loud while not paying attention to Pop-Up at the Oran Mor in Glasgow &#8211; to be fair, I didnt swear this time but still went over to where they were sitting with their backs to the stage oblivious to what was going on.  It was only when the next act &#8211; We Were Promised Jetpacks &#8211; came on did it become clear that the talkers were in fact the mums/dads/aunties/uncles of the Jetpacks.</p>
<p>I think the worst though had to be the wankers at Malcolm Middleton at Classic Grand in Glasgow. There we were, right down at the front when all of a sudden, in the middle of the quietest song in the middle of the gig, two drunken pricks barge in from nowhere and begin a conversation with their two mates, and I kid you not, about the price of a bottle of lager at the venue.  I threw a punch at one of them&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to  recent gigs by Edwyn Collins, Neil Young, Billy Bragg, Morrissey and Aiden Moffat where the average age of the audience was that bit higher.  Funny thing is&#8230;.no-one seemed to do anything but show the utmost respect to the artists.</p>
<p>Seems its the young folk just dont know how to behave themselves properly nowadays&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think small venues with the bar and the stage in the same room is never a great idea, particularly for quieter bands.  and as the ark has the architecture (arkitecture?) of a tunnel, it&#039;s made worse by people at the back being totally disconnected to the live band</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think small venues with the bar and the stage in the same room is never a great idea, particularly for quieter bands.  and as the ark has the architecture (arkitecture?) of a tunnel, it&#8217;s made worse by people at the back being totally disconnected to the live band</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at that gig, but I didn&#039;t like Jaymay very much at all actually.  Mind you, seeing as I was by myself I think it would have taken a very special and very bizarre effort to be all that disruptive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at that gig, but I didn&#8217;t like Jaymay very much at all actually.  Mind you, seeing as I was by myself I think it would have taken a very special and very bizarre effort to be all that disruptive.</p>
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		<title>By: drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found that in most venues in Edinburgh the support act gets treated shamefully by large elements of the crowd. At the Isobel Campbell gig at the Liquid Rooms, it was virtually impossible to listen to Jaymay who was supporting,  the crowd were so rude, Jaymay however commented that the crowd was so much better than Cardiff, so it may not be just an Edinburgh thing, however in my experience it happens there more often. The last time I saw Roddy Frame in the Queen&#039;s Hall, he had to ask some arseholes if they would mind talking when he wasn&#039;t playing and that&#039;s who they had paid fuckin money to see. I get on my high horse about this and it hasn&#039;t been the first time that I&#039;ve told someone to shut the fuck up during the support, they have all the time to talk when some roadie is going 1, 2 2 2 2  into the mic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that in most venues in Edinburgh the support act gets treated shamefully by large elements of the crowd. At the Isobel Campbell gig at the Liquid Rooms, it was virtually impossible to listen to Jaymay who was supporting,  the crowd were so rude, Jaymay however commented that the crowd was so much better than Cardiff, so it may not be just an Edinburgh thing, however in my experience it happens there more often. The last time I saw Roddy Frame in the Queen&#8217;s Hall, he had to ask some arseholes if they would mind talking when he wasn&#8217;t playing and that&#8217;s who they had paid fuckin money to see. I get on my high horse about this and it hasn&#8217;t been the first time that I&#8217;ve told someone to shut the fuck up during the support, they have all the time to talk when some roadie is going 1, 2 2 2 2  into the mic.</p>
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		<title>By: Euan</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/05/the-low-lows-live-the-ark-edinburgh-tuesday-29th-april-2008/#comment-4546</link>
		<dc:creator>Euan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or maybe ace of base &quot;i saw the sign&quot; on repeat would teach them a lesson they&#039;d never forget!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or maybe ace of base &#8220;i saw the sign&#8221; on repeat would teach them a lesson they&#8217;d never forget!</p>
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		<title>By: Euan</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/05/the-low-lows-live-the-ark-edinburgh-tuesday-29th-april-2008/#comment-4545</link>
		<dc:creator>Euan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about you matthew - just you and your verbal onslaught.  that&#039;d teach them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about you matthew &#8211; just you and your verbal onslaught.  that&#8217;d teach them.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/05/the-low-lows-live-the-ark-edinburgh-tuesday-29th-april-2008/#comment-4544</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a swarm of angry bees?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a swarm of angry bees?</p>
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		<title>By: Euan</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/05/the-low-lows-live-the-ark-edinburgh-tuesday-29th-april-2008/#comment-4543</link>
		<dc:creator>Euan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>possibly - or maybe just scarlett johansson singing tom waits songs?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>possibly &#8211; or maybe just scarlett johansson singing tom waits songs?!</p>
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