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	<title>Comments on: Eagleowl &#8211; Live, The Scottish Scullery Edinburgh, Saturday 16th August&#160;2008</title>
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	<description>Independent and alternative music in Scotland - with a shitload of gin.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so wish I had been around for the Kenny/Jenny/Pictish gig.  And the Wee Rogue one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so wish I had been around for the Kenny/Jenny/Pictish gig.  And the Wee Rogue one.</p>
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		<title>By: Milo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dirge controversy aside, I loved the gig, and I&#039;m glad you made the point about the sound being so good - for all three Retreat! gigs I&#039;ve attended (The Pictish Trail, Withered Hand and this one) it has been bloody amazing and it really made a difference. Jonny and Kenny in particular, because it was just the two of them, sounded incredible. I reckon it&#039;s a combination of expertise and great acoustics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dirge controversy aside, I loved the gig, and I&#8217;m glad you made the point about the sound being so good &#8211; for all three Retreat! gigs I&#8217;ve attended (The Pictish Trail, Withered Hand and this one) it has been bloody amazing and it really made a difference. Jonny and Kenny in particular, because it was just the two of them, sounded incredible. I reckon it&#8217;s a combination of expertise and great acoustics.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was an illegal immigrant forcing down house prices.</description>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was it a Pop-Tart that Euan found down the back of the sofa, not a Mars bar?</description>
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		<title>By: Euan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur with the comment on the new songs.  and you are indeed more of a pop tart than me.  i personally think that the fact that they mix up lead vocals is one of the reasons they are becoming better and better.  they have mixed things up beautifully.  like anything, a pop band shouldn&#039;t play up tempo songs for a whole set - unless it&#039;s 30 minutes or so long therwise it would get a little boring.  same applies to slow, dark music.  needs to be a mix.  i think they do that better than most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with the comment on the new songs.  and you are indeed more of a pop tart than me.  i personally think that the fact that they mix up lead vocals is one of the reasons they are becoming better and better.  they have mixed things up beautifully.  like anything, a pop band shouldn&#8217;t play up tempo songs for a whole set &#8211; unless it&#8217;s 30 minutes or so long therwise it would get a little boring.  same applies to slow, dark music.  needs to be a mix.  i think they do that better than most.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you listen to generally dirgier music than I do in general - I&#039;d say I was way more of a pop whore than yourself - so I guess that&#039;s not surprising.

I don&#039;t know, I think if they were to play bowed bass, fiddle and grumbly guitar songs for a whole set you&#039;d have a dirge.  Not that they do this, obviously, but their sound definitely needs the plucked bass to appear from time to time, just to bring a more explicit beat, and I think the ukulele makes a big difference just because the sounds are in the upper register.  It fills it out a bit, although it&#039;s far from needed in every song.

Without the little bits of uke and even that electro-scratching on Motherfucker the only thing that would fill out those upper registers would be Clarissa&#039;s voice, which would leave her with a lot of work to do.

So whilst I love the deeper slower songs, they definitely need the presence of the lighter ones just to give the audience - be it for the gigs or the records - some surprises, and some sort of emotional ambiguity.  So yes, I agree, the songwriting is crucial, because this set had a lot more variety of pace to it than previous sets I have seen and I think that is a very good thing.  Some of the new songs are brilliant - some of their best stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you listen to generally dirgier music than I do in general &#8211; I&#8217;d say I was way more of a pop whore than yourself &#8211; so I guess that&#8217;s not surprising.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, I think if they were to play bowed bass, fiddle and grumbly guitar songs for a whole set you&#8217;d have a dirge.  Not that they do this, obviously, but their sound definitely needs the plucked bass to appear from time to time, just to bring a more explicit beat, and I think the ukulele makes a big difference just because the sounds are in the upper register.  It fills it out a bit, although it&#8217;s far from needed in every song.</p>
<p>Without the little bits of uke and even that electro-scratching on Motherfucker the only thing that would fill out those upper registers would be Clarissa&#8217;s voice, which would leave her with a lot of work to do.</p>
<p>So whilst I love the deeper slower songs, they definitely need the presence of the lighter ones just to give the audience &#8211; be it for the gigs or the records &#8211; some surprises, and some sort of emotional ambiguity.  So yes, I agree, the songwriting is crucial, because this set had a lot more variety of pace to it than previous sets I have seen and I think that is a very good thing.  Some of the new songs are brilliant &#8211; some of their best stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Euan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just felt that this was a bit of an mmmmm review.  the very first time I saw eagleowl at the wee red bar I thought they were awesome.  the word &quot;dirge&quot; should never be used to describe them and I would argue with anyone that they are as fine as any other band that this city has produced.  sound issues are always going to be there with them live but that&#039;s usually more to do with the sound engineers not able to deal with the instruments than the band themselves.  The song, &quot;for the the thoughts you never had&quot; is as fine as anything I&#039;ve heard by a scottish band for a long time.  bart is a mate and it&#039;s easy to say I&#039;m biased but I felt this about them before I even knew the man.  I agree that they have got better - but I&#039;d say that&#039;s more the quality of song writing than their live sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just felt that this was a bit of an mmmmm review.  the very first time I saw eagleowl at the wee red bar I thought they were awesome.  the word &#8220;dirge&#8221; should never be used to describe them and I would argue with anyone that they are as fine as any other band that this city has produced.  sound issues are always going to be there with them live but that&#8217;s usually more to do with the sound engineers not able to deal with the instruments than the band themselves.  The song, &#8220;for the the thoughts you never had&#8221; is as fine as anything I&#8217;ve heard by a scottish band for a long time.  bart is a mate and it&#8217;s easy to say I&#8217;m biased but I felt this about them before I even knew the man.  I agree that they have got better &#8211; but I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s more the quality of song writing than their live sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Campfires &#38; Battlefields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Campfires &#38; Battlefields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least you didn&#039;t call them shit.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, Mrs. Toad thinks it&#039;s because the review comes off as less than positive, and it wasn&#039;t meant to.  I liked Eagleowl an awful lot the first time I saw them, but they are a cut above that now.  Saturday was phenomenal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, Mrs. Toad thinks it&#8217;s because the review comes off as less than positive, and it wasn&#8217;t meant to.  I liked Eagleowl an awful lot the first time I saw them, but they are a cut above that now.  Saturday was phenomenal.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Euan just found a half-eaten Mars bar down the back of the sofa.</description>
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