<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Sorry, What Did You&#160;Say?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/</link>
	<description>Independent and alternative music in Scotland - with a shitload of gin.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:09:44 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Euan</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6413</link>
		<dc:creator>Euan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6413</guid>
		<description>Can i just add that most &quot;trailer parks&quot; in Scotland are actually caravan holiday parks and somewhere to go to for a break from your castle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can i just add that most &#8220;trailer parks&#8221; in Scotland are actually caravan holiday parks and somewhere to go to for a break from your castle.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6412</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6412</guid>
		<description>When they were post-morteming it someone said &quot;it was as if McCain didn&#039;t have to think about his answers at all&quot;.  And they meant it as a compliment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they were post-morteming it someone said &#8220;it was as if McCain didn&#8217;t have to think about his answers at all&#8221;.  And they meant it as a compliment.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6411</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6411</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t hold anyone&#039;s religious beliefs against them, but I find these public forums such as the one this passed Saturday to be utterly pointless and 110% pandering nonsense.

Funny enough, when you think in terms of who has their &#039;finger on the button&#039;, most people would probably want an Atheist in that position. The religious fella thinks God will support his righteous decision and that we&#039;ll all end up in Heaven anyway (or Hell, depending on their specific belief system), whereas the Atheist, believing that this life is essentially all there is, would think very carefully before cremating 6 billion people. Of course, you wouldn&#039;t want an Agnostic such as myself with his finger on the button - the world would be blowing to hell and we&#039;d still be debating what exactly was going to happen after we pushed it! :)

In the end, I do understand why both of them participated. John McCain is trying to prove to those conservative Christians that he&#039;s more Jesus-y than they think, and Obama&#039;s still trying to convince the southern states that he&#039;s not a Muslim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t hold anyone&#8217;s religious beliefs against them, but I find these public forums such as the one this passed Saturday to be utterly pointless and 110% pandering nonsense.</p>
<p>Funny enough, when you think in terms of who has their &#8216;finger on the button&#8217;, most people would probably want an Atheist in that position. The religious fella thinks God will support his righteous decision and that we&#8217;ll all end up in Heaven anyway (or Hell, depending on their specific belief system), whereas the Atheist, believing that this life is essentially all there is, would think very carefully before cremating 6 billion people. Of course, you wouldn&#8217;t want an Agnostic such as myself with his finger on the button &#8211; the world would be blowing to hell and we&#8217;d still be debating what exactly was going to happen after we pushed it! <img src='http://songbytoad.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the end, I do understand why both of them participated. John McCain is trying to prove to those conservative Christians that he&#8217;s more Jesus-y than they think, and Obama&#8217;s still trying to convince the southern states that he&#8217;s not a Muslim.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6410</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6410</guid>
		<description>Doesn&#039;t matter where they live, when working on minimum wage means you have to put in over 60 hours a week just to hit the poverty level, something ain&#039;t right.  Doesn&#039;t matter if you live in trailer or your brothers basement...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter where they live, when working on minimum wage means you have to put in over 60 hours a week just to hit the poverty level, something ain&#8217;t right.  Doesn&#8217;t matter if you live in trailer or your brothers basement&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Campfires &#38; Battlefields</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6409</link>
		<dc:creator>Campfires &#38; Battlefields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6409</guid>
		<description>Sean&#039;s right of course about sectional differences, I shouldn&#039;t have generalized.  As for the Rick Warren &quot;debates,&quot; I really fear it&#039;s just another bit of evidence that church and state won&#039;t stay separate in this country much longer, and in fact I think there are very large segments of the society where they&#039;ve never been separate in the first place.  The reason it &quot;matters&quot; in U.S. politics is that much of the electorate is intellectually lazy.  Too many people have a very simple-minded and disturbing tendency to confuse religiosity with ethics, and politicians cynically exploit this tendency for all it&#039;s worth.  Any politician who makes a public declaration of piety is immediately suspect in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean&#8217;s right of course about sectional differences, I shouldn&#8217;t have generalized.  As for the Rick Warren &#8220;debates,&#8221; I really fear it&#8217;s just another bit of evidence that church and state won&#8217;t stay separate in this country much longer, and in fact I think there are very large segments of the society where they&#8217;ve never been separate in the first place.  The reason it &#8220;matters&#8221; in U.S. politics is that much of the electorate is intellectually lazy.  Too many people have a very simple-minded and disturbing tendency to confuse religiosity with ethics, and politicians cynically exploit this tendency for all it&#8217;s worth.  Any politician who makes a public declaration of piety is immediately suspect in my book.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6408</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6408</guid>
		<description>The trailer park thing depends on what area of the US you&#039;re in. They aren&#039;t strictly purposed for people who are &#039;dirt poor&#039;. Here in Arizona, the majority of trailers/trailerparks are occupied by retirees. Not necessarily because they&#039;re poor, but more often because they can&#039;t maintain a large property anymore, and in many cases the alternative - a condo - is far too expensive. In other cases, they function as winter homes, because Phoenix stays reasonably warm in the winter.

On the other end of the spectrum, a lot of young couples will buy a trailer/mobile/modular home because they can&#039;t yet afford the investment in a house. My sister and brother-in-law live in a very nice mobile home, mostly due to the fact that my niece was something of an accident (a wonderful, incredibly smart and funny accident) and the additional cost prohibited purchase of an actual house. Not that a lot of poor don&#039;t live in trailers, clearly that makes financial sense, but they aren&#039;t the sole occupants.

The small town I live in at the moment started off primarily with trailers, then slowly built around that area and is now dominated by houses/apartments/condos (in fact, they aren&#039;t even zoning property for trailers/mobiles any longer). I will admit that most of the drug-related crime in town now takes place in that area, but for a long time that wasn&#039;t the case as the occupants were more diverse than they are now. Of course, the property is so expensive now that people with moderate income haven&#039;t much choice but to live in a trailer.

On the political front, even more absurd than the incredible flubs John McCain tends to make is the fact that both candidates sat down with Rick &#039;Megachurch&#039; Warren Saturday night to discuss religion - that whole seperation of church and state thing apparently being lost on everyone. What on earth is this to do with BEING PRESIDENT??!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trailer park thing depends on what area of the US you&#8217;re in. They aren&#8217;t strictly purposed for people who are &#8216;dirt poor&#8217;. Here in Arizona, the majority of trailers/trailerparks are occupied by retirees. Not necessarily because they&#8217;re poor, but more often because they can&#8217;t maintain a large property anymore, and in many cases the alternative &#8211; a condo &#8211; is far too expensive. In other cases, they function as winter homes, because Phoenix stays reasonably warm in the winter.</p>
<p>On the other end of the spectrum, a lot of young couples will buy a trailer/mobile/modular home because they can&#8217;t yet afford the investment in a house. My sister and brother-in-law live in a very nice mobile home, mostly due to the fact that my niece was something of an accident (a wonderful, incredibly smart and funny accident) and the additional cost prohibited purchase of an actual house. Not that a lot of poor don&#8217;t live in trailers, clearly that makes financial sense, but they aren&#8217;t the sole occupants.</p>
<p>The small town I live in at the moment started off primarily with trailers, then slowly built around that area and is now dominated by houses/apartments/condos (in fact, they aren&#8217;t even zoning property for trailers/mobiles any longer). I will admit that most of the drug-related crime in town now takes place in that area, but for a long time that wasn&#8217;t the case as the occupants were more diverse than they are now. Of course, the property is so expensive now that people with moderate income haven&#8217;t much choice but to live in a trailer.</p>
<p>On the political front, even more absurd than the incredible flubs John McCain tends to make is the fact that both candidates sat down with Rick &#8216;Megachurch&#8217; Warren Saturday night to discuss religion &#8211; that whole seperation of church and state thing apparently being lost on everyone. What on earth is this to do with BEING PRESIDENT??!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Campfires &#38; Battlefields</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6407</link>
		<dc:creator>Campfires &#38; Battlefields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6407</guid>
		<description>Here&#039;s a little taste of trailer park livin&#039;.  The Rev. Peyton&#039;s Big Damn Band tune Your Cousin&#039;s On Cops.  True Americana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a little taste of trailer park livin&#8217;.  The Rev. Peyton&#8217;s Big Damn Band tune Your Cousin&#8217;s On Cops.  True Americana.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Campfires &#38; Battlefields</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6406</link>
		<dc:creator>Campfires &#38; Battlefields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6406</guid>
		<description>Lots of people live in trailers, and it&#039;s because they&#039;re dirt poor, not because they travel.  These &quot;trailers&quot; are up on cinder blocks; they don&#039;t move.  Unless, of course, there&#039;s a flood or tornado or hurricane, in which case they move quite noticeably.  Trailer parks are frequently built in floodplains because it&#039;s cheap land, but of course there&#039;s no insurance to be had when you build in such a place, so when these people lose everything, they really lose it.  When I was a law student I worked for a summer in a county prosecutor&#039;s office in a very rural part of Virginia, and pretty much every common crime committed in that county occurred in the county&#039;s lone trailer park.  A person from the trailer park would be in the office as the victim of a crime on Monday and then on Friday the same person would be back in the office in handcuffs.  Depressing.  But unless you happened to live in or near the trailer park, you&#039;d have thought the county had no crime at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of people live in trailers, and it&#8217;s because they&#8217;re dirt poor, not because they travel.  These &#8220;trailers&#8221; are up on cinder blocks; they don&#8217;t move.  Unless, of course, there&#8217;s a flood or tornado or hurricane, in which case they move quite noticeably.  Trailer parks are frequently built in floodplains because it&#8217;s cheap land, but of course there&#8217;s no insurance to be had when you build in such a place, so when these people lose everything, they really lose it.  When I was a law student I worked for a summer in a county prosecutor&#8217;s office in a very rural part of Virginia, and pretty much every common crime committed in that county occurred in the county&#8217;s lone trailer park.  A person from the trailer park would be in the office as the victim of a crime on Monday and then on Friday the same person would be back in the office in handcuffs.  Depressing.  But unless you happened to live in or near the trailer park, you&#8217;d have thought the county had no crime at all.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6405</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6405</guid>
		<description>How many people live in trailers in the US approximately - is it like here where there is a &quot;traveller&quot; community here or are they just dirt poor?

I was surprised to see a few trailer parks on the outskirts of Portland, its hardly the warmest/sunniest place during the winter months.  That said, there is one outside Edinburgh so perhaps they are just less visible here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people live in trailers in the US approximately &#8211; is it like here where there is a &#8220;traveller&#8221; community here or are they just dirt poor?</p>
<p>I was surprised to see a few trailer parks on the outskirts of Portland, its hardly the warmest/sunniest place during the winter months.  That said, there is one outside Edinburgh so perhaps they are just less visible here.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/08/im-sorry-what-did-you-say/#comment-6404</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://songbytoad.wordpress.com/?p=2165#comment-6404</guid>
		<description>You know, what&#039;s really galling is to watch two men living in an economy that is really hurting the ever growing working poor and neither will accept that they, in their jobs, or the rest of the government have anything to do with it.  Fucking disgusting.  We critisize kids for not taking responsibility for their actions but it&#039;s not as if they aren&#039;t learning from the top...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, what&#8217;s really galling is to watch two men living in an economy that is really hurting the ever growing working poor and neither will accept that they, in their jobs, or the rest of the government have anything to do with it.  Fucking disgusting.  We critisize kids for not taking responsibility for their actions but it&#8217;s not as if they aren&#8217;t learning from the top&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
