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	<title>Comments on: Blackblack &#8211;&#160;Blackblack</title>
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	<description>Independent and alternative music in Scotland - with a shitload of gin.</description>
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		<title>By: China</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/10/blackblack-blackblack/#comment-8755</link>
		<dc:creator>China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t love this one, indie or not. Wasn&#039;t the fellow in this band also in Phantom Planet? Alex Greenwald, no? He sings better than this ladysinger.

There was actually an article in The Stranger (Seattle&#039;s &quot;alternative&quot; weekly paper) about a controversy with Blackblack, the suggestion that their schtick  of wearing black face paint made them racists. If only they had chosen blueface, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t love this one, indie or not. Wasn&#8217;t the fellow in this band also in Phantom Planet? Alex Greenwald, no? He sings better than this ladysinger.</p>
<p>There was actually an article in The Stranger (Seattle&#8217;s &#8220;alternative&#8221; weekly paper) about a controversy with Blackblack, the suggestion that their schtick  of wearing black face paint made them racists. If only they had chosen blueface, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there&#039;s a nice one called Energy, but for the most part the lyrics are a little bit basic.  I don&#039;t mind it particularly - it sort of fits with the faux-naif vocals and stuff like that - but I wouldn&#039;t be coming here to find the next Bob Dylan.

In terms of judging on too little information, it&#039;s only an EP to begin with, so there&#039;s not that much to draw on anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there&#8217;s a nice one called Energy, but for the most part the lyrics are a little bit basic.  I don&#8217;t mind it particularly &#8211; it sort of fits with the faux-naif vocals and stuff like that &#8211; but I wouldn&#8217;t be coming here to find the next Bob Dylan.</p>
<p>In terms of judging on too little information, it&#8217;s only an EP to begin with, so there&#8217;s not that much to draw on anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: a tart</title>
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		<dc:creator>a tart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah fuck me, he gave us two songs. Ok, time for more coffee today I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah fuck me, he gave us two songs. Ok, time for more coffee today I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: a tart</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/10/blackblack-blackblack/#comment-8752</link>
		<dc:creator>a tart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve mulled it over a bit.... and Matthew, you&#039;ve heard the whole album I assume? Do they suffer so lyrically throughout?

This is what happens when we judge a band by one song, in my opinion. Hasty, rash, and cruel prognoses with little backing and too much diatribe, oh I should have had my coffee first and not read D&amp;C&#039;s comments on another post, hehehe. We&#039;re all sheep here anyway, and Dylan, you are most certainly not cool! Pffft...

One song, indeed... I&#039;m reserving judgment, or trying to from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve mulled it over a bit&#8230;. and Matthew, you&#8217;ve heard the whole album I assume? Do they suffer so lyrically throughout?</p>
<p>This is what happens when we judge a band by one song, in my opinion. Hasty, rash, and cruel prognoses with little backing and too much diatribe, oh I should have had my coffee first and not read D&amp;C&#8217;s comments on another post, hehehe. We&#8217;re all sheep here anyway, and Dylan, you are most certainly not cool! Pffft&#8230;</p>
<p>One song, indeed&#8230; I&#8217;m reserving judgment, or trying to from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They’re just not putting enough imagination or effort in to be considered musicians or artists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Erm, you know better than to come out with this sort of rubbish.

My biggest problem with them comes back to Tart&#039;s comment about the lyrics.  Definitely, I would agree that the lyrics on this album are pretty thin.  Other than that, though, I like the music, particularly the cymbal crashes and slightly odd changes in tempo.</description>
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<p>Erm, you know better than to come out with this sort of rubbish.</p>
<p>My biggest problem with them comes back to Tart&#8217;s comment about the lyrics.  Definitely, I would agree that the lyrics on this album are pretty thin.  Other than that, though, I like the music, particularly the cymbal crashes and slightly odd changes in tempo.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/10/blackblack-blackblack/#comment-8750</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on. I agreed with Tart and Ben about Blacblack, and Tart and Ben disagree with C&amp;B. So therefore I disagree with C&amp;B on that subject. However, I &lt;i&gt;agree&lt;/i&gt; with C&amp;B about the word &#039;alternative&#039;.

So that makes me the only one who&#039;s completely right.

Cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on. I agreed with Tart and Ben about Blacblack, and Tart and Ben disagree with C&amp;B. So therefore I disagree with C&amp;B on that subject. However, I <i>agree</i> with C&amp;B about the word &#8216;alternative&#8217;.</p>
<p>So that makes me the only one who&#8217;s completely right.</p>
<p>Cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/10/blackblack-blackblack/#comment-8749</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m defintely on Tart&#039;s side of the fence about these guys, along with Ben.

They&#039;re just not putting enough imagination or effort in to be considered musicians or artists. It&#039;s dreary and predictable.

As for the definition of indie argument.. I&#039;m with C&amp;B (despite questionning his very indie credentials just now on the Mumford thread.. Teehee!) I kinda like the word &#039;alternative&#039;. It suggests an attempt to subvert or kick against the mainstream, which appeals to me.

The mainstream keeps changing and absorbing the thin and watery arse-gravy end of ever more genres of music, which is where your Keanes and Oasises and Bloc Parties come in. So someone avoiding the mainstream will be taking a route that could be described as &#039;alternative&#039;, would they not?

Apart from Blackblack, who are just a bit rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m defintely on Tart&#8217;s side of the fence about these guys, along with Ben.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re just not putting enough imagination or effort in to be considered musicians or artists. It&#8217;s dreary and predictable.</p>
<p>As for the definition of indie argument.. I&#8217;m with C&amp;B (despite questionning his very indie credentials just now on the Mumford thread.. Teehee!) I kinda like the word &#8216;alternative&#8217;. It suggests an attempt to subvert or kick against the mainstream, which appeals to me.</p>
<p>The mainstream keeps changing and absorbing the thin and watery arse-gravy end of ever more genres of music, which is where your Keanes and Oasises and Bloc Parties come in. So someone avoiding the mainstream will be taking a route that could be described as &#8216;alternative&#8217;, would they not?</p>
<p>Apart from Blackblack, who are just a bit rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/10/blackblack-blackblack/#comment-8748</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and Oasis......and Keane......and Bloc Party....and any other pish that NME maybe pushing....amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and Oasis&#8230;&#8230;and Keane&#8230;&#8230;and Bloc Party&#8230;.and any other pish that NME maybe pushing&#8230;.amen</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://songbytoad.com/2008/10/blackblack-blackblack/#comment-8747</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mine too, in all honesty.  But I still have a habit of using it to describe generic guitar music like fucking Coldplay, despite their being Not Indie At All.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine too, in all honesty.  But I still have a habit of using it to describe generic guitar music like fucking Coldplay, despite their being Not Indie At All.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indie.....context....usage.....not by definition.....well blow me, i dunno how i would describe the music type crowd that i hang around with....let me ponder on that one......anyway i come to terms with my idea of indie is all wrapped up with the ethos of the thing......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indie&#8230;..context&#8230;.usage&#8230;..not by definition&#8230;..well blow me, i dunno how i would describe the music type crowd that i hang around with&#8230;.let me ponder on that one&#8230;&#8230;anyway i come to terms with my idea of indie is all wrapped up with the ethos of the thing&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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