Five Friday Porcupines
Yes, that is the new Toad t-shirt, which can be purchased here, and bears the inspiring and uplifting slogan ‘Up yours, Eagletits.’
Well there’s been some good live music recently, and last night was another excellent Limbo night. All three bands were really good and even though it was a late one, there wasn’t an excessive amount of drunkenness, so apart from being rather tired I actually feel pretty reasonable this morning. Quick question for you all, in advance of the Friday Fives – even though it’s now woefully late, would you appreciate a live review of Mitchell Museum and one of David Thomas Broughton from a couple of weeks ago? Or is timeliness next only to godliness in these matters?
I am going to have the Samamidon session up tomorrow, by hook or by crook. This may well involve a very, very late night with gallons of gin tea, but I am determined to get it up there and start on the Pictish Trail one.
Tomorrow I shall be wandering along to the Meursault in-store at Avalanche, and then over next week they will be round at the house recording the vocals for William Henry Miller Parts One and Two. These will be double a-sides with The Furnace and either The Dirt & the Roots or A Few Kind Words for a twin pack of vinyl released later in the year – probably May I would have thought. And before you start chipping in, no I am not asking for help deciding which of the latter two will be released. Neil will mostly decide, and I will chip in, but this is not a democracy (ha – didn’t that sound decisive and commanding!)
So, that’s about it for this week. We will shortly be heading back to our favourite watering hole, the newly refurbished King’s Wark, for a couple of lunchtime pints and one of the finest lunches to be had in Scotland. Fucking, if I may say so, brilliant. And then off up to the Wee Red Bar to help out with Trampoline and see the Japanese War Effort. Exciting time people, it a rock-and-roll-o-rama around here these days.
So, time to stop shuffling about in the shadows, de-lurk, and make you contribution. If nothing else you will at least stop this thread descending into the usual Bart-baiting within five posts, so any new commenters are highly appreciated. And without further ado, this week’s Toad’s (stolen from GUT) Friday Five:
1. Name a great band with a piss-poor debut album (point for the non-obvious ones like Dylan, Radiohead and the Beatles).
2. Name your favourite thing to do in the snow.
3. How many pairs of shoes do you own?
4. Silliest fish name.
5. How many different formats do you own music in these days?
The Pictish Trail – Into the Smoke (Live on BBC 6Music) Thanks to The Daily Growl.
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The Tartans – Cats of Camerford
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1. Ooh, struggling here… although actually, I don’t like Leisure by Blur particularly, apart the pop-tastic There’s No Other Way.
2.I still love skiing, and I haven’t been for years now. Shame on me.
3. Erm, three pairs of trainers – no, four – some sensible shoes… erm, three pairs of football boots, and I think that’s it. So five – eight if you count football boots.
4. Humphead Wrasse
5. CD, tape, various digital formats, vinyl… and I don’t think I have any MiniDiscs left. And I never owned any of the fancier tape formats or a digital cassette thing. Just four, then.
1. This is difficult. Idlewild perhaps for Captain and most of Hope Is Important and I’d even give AM by Wilco a “could have done better” tag, given how good Uncle Tupelo was. Think their debut was rushed out. Fortunately their just smashing these days.
2. Sledging or building a snowman.
3. No idea – I tend not to throw the old crappy ones out – so far too many.
4. Jack Dempsey Fish
http://www.freshwater-tropical-fish-care.com/jack-dempsey-fish.html
5. cd, tape, vinyl…..and digital too. that’s all. 4. never had mini disks.
1. Skipping this one, can’t think off one of the top of my head and too tired to research. Very slack of me, apologies!
2. Never seen snow, but given the heatwave we’re still slugging through down here, it would be more than welcome!
3. At a guess between 20 and 30 – quite low by typical girl standards I think!
4. Dolly Varden trout – famous for its big….gills
5. Very run of the mill, just CDs and digital gear for me.
Wilco, very very good answer. That came up when this was first discussed down the pub.
I love the Jack Dempsey Fish.
“Morning Jack.”
“Morning Jack.”
“Where are you off to Jack?”
“I’m off on a date Jack.”
“That’s nice Jack, what’s her name?”
“It’s Jack, Jack.”
Dolly Varden trout – famous for its big… gills
Yeah, it’s the Dolly Parton Trout that’s famous for the other reason.
Midlake would be another one. For all the brilliance of Trials of VanOccupanther, I think the first album is completely mental and lacking good songs.
The Jack Dempsey fish makes me wonder who Jack Dempsey was and what he looked like.
I’d agree. I went back to the first one full of excitment and just ended up thinking ‘oh’.
1. Death Cab For Cutie had a shocking couple of albums before they hit their stride…
2. I enjoy rolling the snow into the biggest ball I can manage. Sure, feel free to slap a head and a carrot on it, but that’s not essential in my book.
3. Errmmm, I tend to wear shitty trainers (van’s, converse, et al) until destruction, so I’ve a couple of pairs of those, 2 “sensible” pairs, and some hiking boots, oh, and flip-flops: so 6 pairs in all.
4. I still think the common or garden Guppy takes the biscuit.
5. CD, 7″, hundreds of cassettes, never used MiniDisks, but being a music student I’ve an infinite number of different digital formats (I guess just saying “digital” is a bit lazy – I may just as well say “physical and digital” – but to list all the file types would be rather dull…).
And isn’t Dolly Varden an americana band?
“before they hit their stride” When was that, then?
1. point for the non-obvious ones like Dylan, Radiohead and the Beatles.
Huh? I haven’t released my debut album yet!
2. Drive a Mini.
3. Erm.. Black work shoes, brown work/crossover casual shoes, black best shoes for weddings and funerals, two pairs of Adidas posing daps, two pairs of romping Merrells (one pair still covered in West Coast mud), one pair of summer sandal things.
4. Derek Dick.
5. MP3 mainly. I even tend to abandon CDs after I’ve MP3-ified them. I have a Soundbridge plugged into my sound system in the living room – so I pretty much have all my music either on my computer or iPod.
Aslo – do the Beta Band count? Everything up to the debut album was amazing….then….as you put it matthew….’oh’
…..did Dylan just crack a funny and not actually answer point 1?? Is that not against the rules??
Eh!?! enough of that devil talk: Photo Album and Plans are super, and I won’t hear a word said against them. And who are you to judge: you’ve put a Ben Gibbard track in this very post.
and Transatlanticism by Death Cab is a fab album.
1. err. Can’t think of anything. Agnes has set a bad precedent
2. Never seen snow up close. It’s always far too much of a trek to go see it.
3. Five, two of which are nigh disintegrated.
4. All fish names are hilariously silly. Picking one at random: the Giant Grouper
5. CDs, digital. I think I have a couple of tapes left.
Euan, the Jack Dempsey Fish is named after the well known world heavyweight boxing champion of the 1920′s. This is due to the fish’s absolute fearless attitude and willingness to take on any other fish that dares to enter its territory.
He looked like this..
Dolly Varden: “Whispering” Bob Harris loves ‘em
nice work Dylan. I don’t think the fish looks like him. but it sounds like a tough fish. could it take a piranha do you think??
Don’t know. I actually copy and pasted that info from your own link!
Yeah, I didn’t read it the info. Just liked the name.
Which also contains the following outstandingly detailed information:
Males have larger, longer and pointed dorsal and anal fins. Females have smaller, shorter and more rounded fins
Here’s a post from a fish forum:
jack dempseys are good sized aggressive cichlids, they can be kept with other robust fish but these need to be carefully chosen.
if you keep these fish together, one will get killed.
So I think it’s fair to say it’s a pretty even square go.
When they say other robust fish do they mean like sharks and killer whales?
Killer whales are vicious bastards. The baby seal clubbers of the marine world. Not fish though.
Sorry Dave!
And there are fish forums? That’s awesome. And slightly strange.
Yeah – that’s what they say, but I’ve never met a killer whale I could trust.
And either way, would you want to take one on in a fight if you were a Jack Dempsey fish?
Would you even want to take one on if you were Jack Dempsey?!
I really like that picture of Jack Dempsey.
1. Maybe Bleach by Nirvana? Hasn’t aged as well as the others. I also heard the first Low album for the first time recently, and whilst its not piss-poor, its not a patch on what they did later on. It seemed to take MOdest Mouse a while to get going as well, though I’ve not explored as far back as their debut.
2. Snowman.
3. Two.
4. Foul-mouth bass. This is not actually a real fish, but appeared in an episode of Ren & Stimpy. Good times.
5. CD, Tape, Vinyl, digital. My granny has an old 8track cassette machine, which is awesome. I’m trying to find a way of stealing it without her knowing it was me. I think I’ll make it look like a break in, and take some jewellery at the same time.
Also, Idlewild have been on a downward slide ever since Captain. Fact.
I could kick Jack Dempsey’s ass. What with him being dead and all…
1. Never really got Nick Cave’s Kicking against the Pricks – but it has a really good name
2. Snowball fights – as long as it’s against someone with a crap aim and little strength – my niece is a good bet
3. Too many – some never worn, some that should be long retired
4. My goldfish is called Salvador. I’m a bit wary of researching fish forums
5. I’m ashamedly only on 2 these days…
And those two are Victorian wax cylinders and those little round metal things with notches on that you put in clockwork musical boxes.
Killer Whales are from the dolphin family. Which either makes dolphins more sinister than they appear in flipper or Killer Whales much harder than they appear at Sea World. I once watched Killer Whales kill a baby grey whale, basically by jumping head first into it’s face. They did this for hours til they killed it then they ate its tongue…..that’s all they ate….it’s tongue.
1. I’ve always thought that the first Clash album was/is pish
2. Make snow angels
3. dunno…but i normally choose from a range of 6 pairs
4. Supper
5. 5
and bart – for your idlewild comment, i refer you to the t-shirt at the top of the page. ;o)
Shonagh’s Nick Cave comment is spot on – his early stuff really was a bit crap if you ask me. I only really start to like his albums from about First Born is Dead. The earlier albums have some great songs on them but as whole albums they don’t quite do it for me.
Dave – have you seen Killer Whalesnotfish play with baby seals? It’s a little disturbing to say the least.
that would liven up the sea world shows
“Does anyone have an unwanted ginger step-child to participate in this next act…?”
Dolphins in general are pricks. There’s nothing like watching a nature documentary on the sea life of some tropical paradise, only to have the presenter turn to the camera and say “Oh and now those two dolphin males are going to go gang rape that female. This happens a lot.”
Watching killer whales play with baby seals is an education in sadism. Let’s just hope the cia aren’t taking notes.
Fucking Flipper. There’s a white-wash job if ever I saw one.
“Dolphins in general are pricks. Fucking Flipper. There’s a white-wash job if ever I saw one.”
T-shirt, anyone?
I’m probably a bit later again on the Cave stuff, Henry’s Songs perhaps, but i haven’t given the first few albums a decent listen i guess. His voice always seem to lack conviction in the earlier stuff having been used to the depth of his vocal on the Murder Ballads for example. I actually have a feeling kicking Pricks isn’t the first album, but i’ll stand by my decision
Go on, kill the thread with a poorly judged T-Shirt suggestion misfire.
Makes a change from me doing it.
Oh now see!
If I’d have said “T-Shirt” no one would have ever have posted here again.
Hi Toadicle.
Yes, a Mitch’ Muse’ review would be interestink.
I currently have a huge tech spasm issue back at DCHQ – the home office computer is down & offline; has been since Wednesday, hence the fecking no-show show. I have a tech bod in this afternoon to have a fiddle with its innards & hopefully all will be well & ftp’d by 6pm at the latest (if’n it’s ok with you I’ll post TWR entry this eve, but date it Weds).
To the menu, then:
1. Heathers – I was really uninspired by the LP output of this truly promising duo from Ireland. The demos were staggeringly good; live they were right on the money; on record, the frantic acoustic rapid-strum + counterpoint low-to-high-to-squeal warbling simply didn’t work for me. Huge shame. I blame the producer.
2. Go for a walk through fields & country lanes/drive through Brecon Beacons
3. Too fucking many (ask TWoTH), especially if you include boots & trainers/sneakers (shoes = 8 pairs, trainers/sneakers = 20+, including 4 pairs that duplicate some well/still worn favorites but have never been out of their boxes, boots = 3 pairs)
4. I’m not sure I get this, as in a proper fish name, like peppermint plecostomus, or a name you’d give a pet (like Admiral Akbar, what I called my Black Moor)?
5. Vinyl (7″, 12″ + LP), CD (Mini, 7″ + Album), Digital (MP3, M4A, WAV, Flac), DVD (Singles/Concerts/etc.), Cassette, + MiniDisc (I use them to record off-site sessions/gigs & interviews)
Ha! I started this before anyone had commented, even Toad, but the distractions of the office meant that when I just took a peak there were over 30 other comments!
knock knock
I’d buy one.
has anyone bought a t-shirt……other than Toad that is?
Euan bought ‘The Kays Lavelle were shit’ at the exact same time as I bought him one as a present. The fucker.
now i have 2 if anyone wants one…..
….i might buy the dolphin one for my wife. she thinks they are evil.
and matthew it’s “grumpy fucker” thank you very much!
It’s grouchy fucker now, mate.
I have to say Euan you seem a lot happier, more relaxed, cheerful and easy-going now that you’ve embraced your inner grumpy git!
Embraced his inner grumpy git? He’s positively slipped his hand down his boxers for a swift one off the wrist.
Thing is, despite being a joke about his grumpiness, that Oscar the Grouch looks so happy it actually makes all Euan’s comments seem really quite jolly by association.
it’s spending less time with you that’s done it…;o)
1. yo la tengo – what the hell where they thinking.
2. take a piss
3. 4. 5. – seven is the answer to all three
1. Voxtrot, or maybe Battle, in anticipation of better to come.
2. I’m not a huge fan of the snow (“I am a miserable git”) although ‘watching my kids play in it’ is probably the most honest answer.
3. Two pairs of boots that I wear quite a lot, some trainers that I run in sometimes, some footy boots I haven’t worn for a long time. I also slightly comically still have a pair of running spikes knocking around somewhere. And some very old and falling apart things that I wear in the garden. So 6.
4. I went to look up ‘names of fish’ on wiki and straight away came up with ‘aholehole’ which is splendid, as is ‘alewife’. I can’t be bothered to read any further.
5. Cassettes, vinyl and CDs, the usual various digital formats. I was talking to a kid here who swears that his dad has an eight track cartridge player he still uses. A friend used to have a reel to reel machine he would use to record and listen to things on. But not me.
“running spikes knocking around somewhere. And some very old and falling apart things that I wear in the garden”
I somehow managed to put these two pairs of shoes together and now I can’t imagine you doing anything other than pottering about the garden dressed as the 118 118 twins.
Apparently today the lingerie mannequins in the window of Jenner’s on Princes Street are not in fact mannequins, but real live human girls who can move and everything.
We’re supposed to me making some mock film posters here (to show what a fun and with it department we are – trainspotting, maybe the shining). I will try to get one done based on them as well.
The lingerie models in Jenner’s window?
You can break your running spikes out of mothballs.
Dylan – thanks, I might stop by for a quick hand shandy on my way up to Trampoline.
That would be well funny, seeing you crack one off in the middle of Princes Street drooling at a shop window.
Again.
The ladies in the window tend to be less than amused, the snooty fuckers. Well lah-di-dah Miss Nojizzinmyhaironafriday.
Yeah but last time Matthew it was Gregg’s the bakers.
Examine your pastries carefully.
hello!
1. this is very hard – i have scrolled right through the itunes trying to find anybody whose first album is their worst. whoever said the beta band had a good point. bart was totally wrong about bleach. i would guess that the mountain goats’s debut cassette on shrimper, ‘taboo VI: the homecoming’, probably sounds like it was recorded in an air raid shelter under heavy fire but i have not heard it so cannot attest.
2. build igloos. it only happened one year but it was so so great.
3. four or five, i think.
4. plaice. hahahahahaha! a lot of fish names aren’t that funny in themselves (…) but they make some good puns on the side of ‘newspaper-style’ fish & chip boxes from eg. the anstruther fish bar. “man batters fish: ‘i was not near the plaice’ he said” etc.
5. CD/CD-R, vinyl (33s, 45s, lots of 78s…. and i am forever bidding on 16s on ebay and then forgetting all about them), cassette, 8-track, and currently lots and lots of minidiscs (for uni fieldwork/show recording purposes). plus the usual digital whatevers of course. i really went in for the format thing as a teenager so i have lots of different equipment for playing this stuff on too. it doesn’t really reflect my listening habits, though i do enjoy my croony 78s.
Cream puff anyone?
Hello E.R.!
Apologies for the unfortunate simul-comment there!
ER – Yes, I disagree about Bleach as well, although I’m not such a massive fan of Nirvana that I felt I had much to offer on the subject.
Are you some sort of vinyl overlord or something, that sounds like an amazing collection.
ha, not at all!!! i have a small vinyl collection based around format fetishism rather than any other kind of coherency. i mean, the LPs make sense but the rest of it is a lot of dross. have you been to the gramophone emporium on st stephen street? best record shop in edinburgh. sort of.
1. Cocteau Twins (first couple, unlistenable; the rest, gorgeous)
2. Tobogganing
3. Countless (and very un-manly) number of sneakers i.e. trainers
4. Orange Roughy (native to NZ)
5. Five – vinyl (7″+12″), CD, cassette, mp3, video/DVD..? bonafide music nerd.
Other than my friends there, Avalanche Records is probably what I miss most about Edinburgh.
1. Since Nirvana & Radiohead were already mentioned…though Old Crow Medicine Show’s debut wasn’t bad, it’s blah compared to the brilliance of “Big Iron World”.
2. I’m more of a snow spectator than a participant in my old age.
3. I don’t know, but more than I actually wear.
4. Salmon, with their pretentious silent “l” & swimming upstream…arrogant bastards.
5. Vinyl, tape, minidisc, CD, mp3, & many others I can’t recall. I listen to CDs more than anything else.
Dev – have you heard Billy Connolly’s sketch about toboggans? Fucking hilarious. Just how rough do you think Roughy are? I don’t reckon they could take a Jack Palance Fish, or whatever the fuck that one was that was mentioned about thirty comments ago, but I might be surprised. They might be tougher than they look. Or just over-cooked, boom-tish!
ER – no I haven’t, but it sounds amazing. How did I not even know it was there? I actually don’t listen to albums on vinyl very much, but I love singles.
how can a fish be native to a land?
also just got this email
NEW RECORD IN STORES APRIL 7TH
The Felice Brothers are proud to announce the release of their
latest full-length, Yonder Is The Clock, due out April 7th on Team
Love Records.
Confirmed Tracklisting for Yonder Is The Clock is below:
1. The Big Surprise
2. Penn Station
3. Buried In Ice
4. Chicken Wire
5. Ambulance Man
6. Sailor Song
7. Katie Dear
8. Run Chicken Run
9. All When We Were Young
10. Boy from Lawrence County
11. Memphis Flu
12. Cooperstown
what your fave song matty boy….tell us lower life’s all about it
Did you the one about the [insert stereotype dim-witted individual here] who got lost in a ski resort?
He stopped one bloke and he said, “Excuse me, which way to the ski-lifts?”
“I’m afraid I don’t know,” replied the stranger “I’m a tobagganist.”
“Oh, fantastic!” exclaimed the [insert stereotype dim-witted individual here] “I’ll have twenty Benson & Hedges and a box of matches, cheers!”
Toboggan
Toboggan
Toboggan
I know.
I spotted that too.
You could have just corrected it. But no. You choose to humiliate me instead.
Thanks. It’s not as if I was the one spending the afternoon talking about how much I love flicking off a crafty one into a jam doughnut, was it?
Actually, I was just enjoying how silly a word it is. I hadn’t noticed the spelling mistake.
Chutney Boy – Ambulance Man and the Big Surprise have caught my ear so far.
What time you going to the pub – ahem! – I mean – Trampo?
Amblulance man….i think they played that at King Tuts…..which was an awesome gig….i hate King Tuts…..it was meant to be sold out….but i would guess it was bearly 3/4 full!!!
I am truly envious. I couldn’t go to that one and I wish I could have. I like Tut’s though – it’s almost as good as the Bowery.
Billy Connolly: Have not heard–will investigate further.
Orange Roughy – I just wiki’d, and apparently they are a member of the “Slimehead” family and can live to be up to 150 years old. They look pretty bad-ass in the pic. I’ve cooked quite a bit of it (very tasty) but first heard of them about 20 years ago when a band emerged from NZ calling themselves The Orange Roughies. A Hoodoo Gurus soundalike, if memory serves, but don’t hold me to that.
you think? i think it’s an arse of place, King Tuts that is, the bar is in the worng place…people just stand in the door way at the top of the stairs when it is anywhere over half full….sound is fucking pish….it’s in Glasgow!!!
Need i go on?
sorry to cut in but does anyone know where i can hear the full pictish trail session from bbc 6 as its not available on the site and i am dying to hear it. i know its a long shot.
mt goats, nirvana?!?!?! wow, there are so many more crappy 1sts out there…surprising.
btw, the worst name of a fish i ever heard…she named it Phish!
what did the fish say after it jumped out of the tank and hit the wall…damn!
Michael, there are two tracks here : http://thedailygrowl.co.uk/?p=959
If its any consolation, Matthew recorded a session with Pictish Trail last week and it will be appearing here pretty soon along with videos.
Matthew, sweetie. Change my thumbnail before I change you into a eunuch.
ha ha….i think that is the best laugh i’ve had all day…sorry!!!
David Thomas Broughton review please. Just so I can compare it with mine. I saw him last week and it was … interesting…
But to the pressing business
1. I’m a big Teenage Fanclub fan but I’m not very fond of ‘A Catholic Education’. Apart from Everything Flows of course. And Eternal Light.
2. Make yellow swirls
3. Loads. All of them either Camper or Converse. I have another pile in my wardrobe with paint and dirt on.
4. Turbot.
5. All that exists apart from 78s or wax cylinders. I even have tapes and minidiscs, which rarely get played, though my car is old enough to have a tape player in.
4. Turbot.
Not so fast, Turbot!
1. Fleetwood Mac – not my fave until Lindsay/Buckingham came along, sorry.
2. Go inside and watch it fall from the comfort of a comfy duvet, basking in the afterglow
3. 7, really. And two of them because I had to go to weddings and fancy dinners which I hate dressing for anyway, gah.
4. Phish – stupid band too
5. Mp3, mp4, flac, ogg, wmv, mp4r, cassettes, cds. Tho I try to translate everything to mp3 and I really do think mp4 sounds better.
Oh Mrs. Toad… get the knife! That’s just horrible.. *stifling a laugh!
I’m not changing that, even if I have to take all my meals intravenously for the rest of my life.
uh, I don’t think it’s your mouth/throat/stomach she’s aiming for.
1. Blur’s Leisure is their weakest (yes, weaker than the Great Escape) and I agree with all those folk who have said the Beta band’s debut as well. Also, good as the title track was, I think ‘In the City’ by the Jam is weak, as was the follow-up ‘This Is the Modern World. Those were the days – bands got the chance on major labels to get their act together…
2. Make snowmen or go sledging. haven;t done the latter in years, mind…
3. Three. I may be many things but I’m not an Imelda Marcos wannabe.
4. I agree with the person who said Derek Dick.
5. There are still a couple of Minidiscs hanging around. Vinyl obviously (not including the separate vinyl sizes LP, 10″, 7″, 12″ etc..), cassette, CD, mp3 (and one or two things in WMA), I still haven’t got my head round torrents.
Choosing between Leisure and The Great Escape really is like asking someone which bollock they’d prefer to be kicked in, but later album did have the utterly sublime The Universal, one of the band’s best moments, in amongst all the turgid shite.
I genuinely think the Great Escape is a good album, though ‘Topman’ should have been left off, two or three tracks removed -say, ‘Dan Abnormal’ as well, it would have been a different album.
The Great Escape even has a track with a voiceover by Ken Livingstone. I’ll leave you to decide whether that’s a good thing or not…
Umm, yes that one might have to go as well, but ‘He Thought Of cars’ ‘Yuko and hiro’ ‘Fade away’ and that’s before you consider the singles. What i think it suffers from is the increasing feeling at the time that an album had to be an hour long, which is one of the many downsides of the CD era, and bands started filling CDs. Which is why the first two strokes albums being able to fit onto a single CD seems almost ridiculous…
Yuko & Hiro, Fade Away & the Universal are good enough for me to overlook an awful lot of sins.