Five Friday Fatwas
Christ, I get back from a long (and, frankly, really rather interesting) meeting and find the website suffering somewhat from the last post being just a little serious. Stop it, people, there will be no meaningful discussions on Friday, particularly not after lunch, it’s just not right.
On the radio show last night I played a song by a band called National Beekeepers Society, and it occurred to me afterwards that they have a sound very reminiscent of a lot of 90s indie rock. In fact, there’s been a fair amount of that kind of stuff surfacing recently, even down to the likes of the excellent Sholi who I reviewed a day or so ago on this very site. It’s about time for the 90s revival, I suppose, given that we’re about a decade away from them now, and I suppose these are the first green shoots of that very re-evaluation. I can’t personally imagine what the 90s revival will be like really, having been a bit too involved with the real thing to guess what it will look like when viewed through uber-ironic teenage eyes.
On the subject of green shoots, I am gazing out the window into the sunshine, desperately hoping that tomorrow is at least vaguely like today. Our garden has been neglected pretty much entirely since October, and there is something absolutely fucking amazingly wonderful about sitting out in the garden with a cup of tea. Or a fucking great big gin and tonic. It actually feels like spring is here – this has been a very pleasant week indeed, long may it continue.
1. Thing you are most looking forward to in the 90s revival.
2. Thing you are least looking forward to in the 90s revival.
3. Most embarrassing thing you allowed yourself to revive during the 80s revival.
4. Has Spring hit where you live yet?
5. Do you grow things or have plants or a garden or something? (What a well-constructed sentence that is.)
National Beekeepers Society – Lazy
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The Ramones – The Garden of Serenity
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1. Catherine Wheel reforming
2. The chance that the Tories getting back into power.
3. other than my love for Glam Rock, nothing, i hated the fucking 80’s.
4. well i think so, cos the girls are looking mighty fine out on the street, with their newly bought summer wear….Tit day (is the term that we should use, as i was reliably informed by a lady friend) happened on Tuesday…and it was grand!
5.i’ve got a rather shabby looking tree thing in my front room, oh i think i’ve got some mould growing on the chedder in my fridge
1. Arching an eyebrow and wearily ruining teenager’s excitement by declaring that I’ve seen it all before. The revival of early Britpop is going to be a lot of fun.
2. Ned’s Atomic fucking Dustbin. And those Gallagher twats thinking that they have finally become relevant again.
3. Really pale jeans. I had one pair in about 2002 and I hang my head in shame in recollection.
4. Yes yes YES! Our daffs are coming up and the sun is out. Fucking get in there!
5. We had a courtyard when we moved into the house, but have been smashing it up one or two flags at a time ever since. We’ve reclaimed a lot, and it seems that pretty much anything grows there, which is splendid.
a fucking courtyard….!!!!
Not any more mate, it’s a back garden now!
oh, thats ok…..when are you going to invite me round for a barbecue then
1. Hooper’s Alcoholic Ginger Beer
2. Endless “Best Of The 90s” TV shows interviewing Bez and Shaun Ryder.
3. I watched an old episode of Auf Wiedersehen, Pet the other week.
4. I’m sunbathing in my bikini even as I type.
5. Shit! I’ve got to get my tomatoes in!
Fuck, the tomatoes, of course.
Chutters, we will be having barbies on a fairly regular basis I should imagine. Better than dingy old gigs, in any case.
Mind you, we could always combine the two.
1. the disappearance of the eighties revival.
2. the disappearance of the nineties revival.
3. i definately had a pair of those wayfarers with the illuminous legs at one point. then i got sensible and swapped them for a plain black pair which are relevant in any age if you ask me.
4. oh yes. the shivers are dead, long live the sweats.
5. i have a shared garden/drying green and we have some lovely flowers and plants growing. i must stress none of them were planted by me, but its nice to see them coming thorugh i particularly like those ones that look like trumpets.
You could invite Sparrow & The Workshop round to make guacamole!
and Greggor can watch us get shitfaced
…again
Weve been getting hit with best of nineties shows since about 1998 dylan and its just going to get worse and worse and worse and worse!
The Annual Song By Toad BBQfest. that has a nice ring to it.
1) the second stone Roses Album
2)Thunderbird Wine Punch – still hurts
3)Hanoi Rocks clearly – Finland in 3 weeks for the cheerio shows
4)Yes and we have one of those window window window offices – scorchio already
5)We grow grass in our garden
Hanoi Fucking Rocks…..love em….love em to death……haven’t heard any of the new stuff…but give me the live album ‘All Those Wasted Years’ any day of the week and i’ll give you a party!!!!
Hanoi are hanging up the haircuts in 3 weeks time, 4 nights in a row at the venue they started in in Helsinki. Big party hopefully. Can’t wait
i heard…..you enjoy i’m jealous, greatly
1. Dunno. Maybe checking the bands I missed out on the first time around (people like Sonic Youth, Sleater-Kinney, Silver Jews – who I always intended to check out, but never got round to it).
2. The very idea of it makes me feel very very old. Also, anything related to ‘Madchester’.
3. Was there an 80s revival? My friend got me the first series of Magnum PI on DVD. It was really good.
4. Yes. Yes, it has. And I am happy.
5. There’s a shared green. We have a really old fashioned lawn mower – one of the rotary ones that you trundle along and the blades rotate and cut the grass. I used to really enjoy cutting the grass with it – it took ages, but you got an immense sense of accomplishment. I think it’s probably seen its last days now, though.
1. 90s revival? I think someone needs to inform the rest of the country of this as all I can see are students decked out in sun-block ski goggle sunglasses & fluorescent casual wear/skinny jeans listening to power punk versions of The Slits or The Clash’s poppier era.
2. People insisting there is one when there’s clearly not… maybe it’s an Edinburgh thing?
3. Fancy Dress 80s party for my 30th – I dressed up as Robert Smith (circa. In Between Days video), make up.wig/the lot, & TWoTH dressed up as Elliot from E.T. with a fake set of bicycle handlebars & a basket & a blanketed R.T. strapped to her chest.
4. Yes. TWoTH keeps banging on about the fucking crocuses.
5. Back Garden has been ‘confiscated’ by my father who has sculpted it into his own weird & wonderful plant/flower explosion & animal trap vision. That said, we do grow cherry tomatoes, potatoes, been trying carrots, mint, a million herbs & we have a very healthy bay tree. Which is what everyone should have. A bay tree.
*E.T. obviously
1. nothing.
2. nothing
3. nothing
4. yes
5. no
that was easy.
“People insisting there is one when there’s clearly not”
I’m not saying that it’s here now, just that it’s about due and that it is inevitable.
I like Bart’s plan of listening to the stuff I missed to begin with. Pavement and Tortoise, to name two.
hey wasnt the nineties a revival already of some other era. are we just having revivals of revivals now?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jan/30/leeds-grunge-scene
That’s what you were wearing when I popped round last time I was in Cardiff.
But that just seemed like a normal night in..
1. Being in the know, because I still listen to 90s era stuff
2. A tie between the resurrection of 90210, and the possibility of Oasis becoming popular in the States again. I really, really dislike them. A lot.
3. Owning too many clothes made entirely out of jersey material.
4. I’d like to think so, but it snowed yesterday and my car was covered in frost this morning – so probably not here.
5. I once grew habanero peppers in a pot on my porch, but that’s as far as my green thumb can extend.
Is there a 90’s revival? Because in midwestern America, it’s still the 90’s I’m pretty sure. I heard Pearl Jam this morning on the ‘modern rock’ station
Alcopops, in all the colours of the rainbow
Alcopop hangovers, and boy bands. There are enough reinventions going on as it is.
I am very proud of all of my fashion decisions during the eighties revival – especially my reebok high tops.
Yes, and it is beautiful
I grow a half assed peace lily, that is on its last legs. But I’d love a garden. In my last flat there was an amazing garden. Don’t really know why i moved…
Hi Dianna… Do i know you?
Dianna — very, very, very true. There are pockets of America that will forever be 1980-something, or 1990-something, or just the wrong side of hip.
Just America?
and Stockbridge
I’m led to believe there are pockets of America 1950-something. Even 1930-something.
But judging by bands like The Wobbling Bells or whatever they were there are still pockets of the English countryside stuck in 1500-and-something!
Bugger! I said I’d let that drop! Sorry, sorry…
Shonagh, Shonagh…hmm, might ring a bell. Did I once buy a kitchen cabinet from you? Oh, no, it was several pints of ale.
I only say that about America because, even though there are places that suffer obvious time warps, the size of that country means the smaller areas/less frequented/more closeted make the freeze frame stand out much starker than somewhere like, say, Essex (which is still very ’80s in a lot of respects but nowhere near as ’80s as, say, Houston).
& you are right, Mr. Dyran, some parts of the States haven’t changed since the ’50s.
1. Actual rock music, particularly female musicians (so sick of “indie-rock” and crap pop), a return of big, comfortable clothes would also be nice, and maybe a My So-Called Life reunion movie?
2. I loved the early & mid 90s era of music (everything from hair bands, grunge, grrl rock, Lilith Fair, Britpop, hip-hop, r&b), but the superficial nature of the latter half of the decade seems to have began the downward spiral of the music industry – Britney Spears & Shania Twain paving the way for the pop & country catwalks of no talent to come, and Cher introducing the world to Auto-Tune abuse.
3. The only part of the 80s revival I participated in was listening to music, which I feel no shame about.
4. Nope, sadly still wearing winter coats here.
5. No, I have a black thumb. I usually get a pot of flowers for the front porch in the spring, but I have a talent for killing ‘em off.
i’m gagging for a pint?
YES!
well if you tell me where you’re going….i might join you….maybe
NOT funny chaps, you get Edinburgh and I get Crewe today. I might just wait till I get to Manchester later. Could murder a pint now though.
Cogstar, my morning was spent in Livingston. My business trips since I moved to Scotland have been to Shotts, Aberdeen, Inverness, Livingston and, erm, that’s about it. So actually staying around work for a pint is a fine thing.
Here.
I don’t know about kitchen cabinets, but Shonagh’s got a lovely chips-n’-dips bowl she’s promised me when the shop have finished with it!
You mean, when they go out of business in about a month or two due to illegal immigration and house prices? Wait a minute, are we in the Daily Mail all of a sudden?
Beer o’clock.
I like pub
might see you in said place…..
Definitely beer o’clock, which means we are officially having to hand over the site to the Americans (gagging for a pint) and the Australians (waking up far too early with hangovers) and anyone who is still at their desks (poor, poor fucking bastards).
I am going to get smashed and record a podcast. That’ll work.
That Google thingy is fucking creepy, but fascinating nevertheless.
This is my car in the car park at work.
Three-post mentalism!
I mean, four.
I mean… oh, shit.
You think its weird, you can see in my house windows!! No i am not posting a link! So Shore?
I like Chutters
You lucky jerks. I can’t drink because I’m watching 11 years olds be idiots – although I would dearly love to.
Ha ha, I can see in Shonagh’s window!
It’s mad, isn’t it? We were only talking about this ‘new’ Google ‘toy’ today — from a security perspective it’s a fucking nightmare. Such a boon for doing a quick reccy.
1. The revival of shoegazing bands like Curve and Lush. Still have many of the 12″s and LPs…
2. More happy hardcore compilations. Scooter should fuck off and die once and for all.
3. Buying Human League records post ‘Dare.’ Apart from the song ‘Human’ it’s really not necessary.
4. Yes! The Meadows in Edinburgh are looking fab. The students already want to be taught out of doors.
5. We have some plants in the flat -male cat keeps eating the wife’s hibiscus. She is not pleased….
You know, it’s funny, I don’t remember this much of a commotion when the streetview thing got started in the States. Maybe in a world that has CCTV all over, it’s more noticeable or something.
I had never really thought about it with a criminal slant until this whole thing came out. Now, I’m thinking about casing a fancy jewelry store.
Riot Grrrrrl punk/rock and no I’ll not be convinced it’s not good! And Muruch, I am so with you on that! Give me a freakin bass line please!
Crap rap that went from saying something to a cock contest (and not the kind I enjoy).
Banarama? oooh well yes
Brighter here, some few warmish days, and I saw some crocuses comming up in neighbors gardens on dog walks. Of course dog promptly pees on them, so we’ll see…
Oh hell no, gave that up gladly to be in the city! But MChutney has some really big flower pots on front porch. All dead from last year so far but she’ll be dragging me offto garden stores soon.
1) suspect hair doos such as ‘curtains’ or the spiral perm so i can have a laugh at people who are clearly enduldging too much in the rivival.
2)cover versions of 2 unlimited.
3) shoulder pads, they were only used once.
4)yes i was in a tshirt outside today for all of five mins, the rest of the day i was stuck in the archaeology dept. doing uni work.
5)yes i have a shared garden but mostly i like looking at all the plants what are growing where theyr not meant to. and make places look nice.
Totally off topic, but I want to ask:
Does Meursault’s Pissing On Bonfires/Kissing With Tongues (the track) remind you of any other song in particular*? And if so, which one?
I want to see if it’s just me.
* And, may I add, one song sounding similar to another is in no way my way of saying, ‘that’s a rip off’. A) That’s not necessarily a negative thing, and, B) It’s a great song in itself.
Is it ‘Beat It’ by Jacko?
Feeling 21 again
Everyone becoming an unplugged artist
painted denim jacket
if spring has disguised itself as a rolling dense fog then it is spring in San Diego
flowers and small trees around the house inside and out. People in my complex call me the plant guy because you can’t see me on the balcony for all the flower pots
1. I was a teenager in the 90’s, so I really don’t remember any of it with great fondness. Give me another 10 years.
2. Mariah Carey/Celine Dion wannabes. Friggin wailing banshees they were.
3. I wore leggings a lot as a kid in the 80’s and early 90’s. Does that count?
4. It’s autumn here in Oz, although all this means is that we have a couple of cold mornings and then it gets all hot again – we’re expecting a top of 35C (95F) here today.
5. We’re experiencing something of a drought down in these here parts, so all seem to grow are weeds. We did grow cherry tomatoes this summer though – nothing beats a real tomato grown on a real vine and not sprayed with bloody pesticides and plucked when it’s barely green.
“Is it ‘Beat It’ by Jacko?”
Oooo. ‘It’s good, it’s not the one.’
Gotta be Song Against Sex by Neutral Milk Hotel.
By the way, I posted my five answers from work and they got caught up in the damnable spam filter. Now I can’t even remember what I said.
“Gotta be Song Against Sex by Neutral Milk Hotel.”
And there we go! It isn’t just me. That’s interesting to know.
maybe ‘The Hymn For The Cigarettes’ by Hefner.
If this isn’t close I’m going to buy the bloomin CD and listen to the song.
“If this isn’t close I’m going to buy the bloomin CD and listen to the song.”
Oh, very good, Sir. Made me giggle. The thought of us: still here, playing the same game a year later.
1. Ride reunion! Ride reunion! There’s a load of good “new-gaze” out there, but the daddies need to show the kids how to do it properly. Andy Bell, put down the Oasis, and step away….
2. That I can’t fit into my vintage 3 stripe adidas skinny tops anymore.
3. Ladyhawke is really good
4. “Ladies” of Dundee – lycra is a privilege, not a right!
5. I’m really happy I can get in my garden without turning into an icicle actually.
That Lemonheads track set me off, thank god for Spotify – I’m now listening to their back catalogue without having to get out of bed to find the cds….
1. Radiohead, The Bends.
2. Oasis. Cuntful twats
3. Nothing. I looked like the 4th member of Bananarama the first time round and am still trying to live it down. (shudder)
4. Oh yes, gorgeous on the south coast, view of the sparkly sea from my window. Now THAT is what I left London for.
5. Hmmm – did have a lovely garden and an allotment in London so bit sad that don’t have them anymore but hopefully seaside living will make up for it.
off to try that Google thing now
x
Ride?
Yeah, Ride! Although I still maintain that the first two LPs and first half a dozen EPs were the best things they did.
Yeah, Ride! Although I still maintain that the first two LPs and first half a dozen EPs were the best things they did.
Isn’t that a bit like picking sweetcorn out of shit, Ed?
Oh now come on! Ride’s Nowhere is an absolute classic.
Ride were the dogs balls….then can’t understand Andy Bell being a member of the shite that is Oasis
Dammit! I just heard an ad on the radio for an Oasis concert. All of my 90’s revival fears have been realized.
Surely Oasis are 60s revivalists?
Nowhere is indeed a classic, up there with My Bloody Valentine for shoegazing wonderfulness. Then again, if you don’t like Shoegazing, it won’t change your mind. On the subject of the nineties revival: If Oasis seem woeful these days, bear in mind that Gem Archer was in Heavy Stereo and Andy Bell’s post-band were Hurricane #1…yes, there’s a reason barely anyone remembers either of these acts: they were mostly rubbish! Early Britpop was great, these guys and bands like them were the dregs.
1 bill clinton
2 Bush I
3 My entire career path.
4 We expect spring some time in june.
5 Planning to grow chillies/
1. / 2./ 3. what 80s, 90s revival? Good music is good music.
4. Spring sprang over a month ago, based on the weather and such
5. Things like plants tend to grow independent of what we do; the issue is what to keep from growing, or what to cut back or prune. That’s also a good summary of what life is like right now for me and the Ms.
Erm, it was just a lighthearted question for the purposes of entertainment old chap, don’t take it personally.
Bugger.
I’ve missed the window for my tomatoes, haven’t I?
wheres the podcast?
There is almost something almost derogatory about when they announce the first day of Spring in Boston. It’s still below freezing.
By the way, has anyone seen if those upside down tomato growers work? They turn tomatoes into a hanging plant.
I’ve seen those, Ben.
I think you need to use particular varieties of small cherry tomatoes, but they look promising.
Cherry tomatoes are too sweet, you need proper Italian tomatoes.
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