Comments on: George Pringle – Salon des Refusés http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/ Independent music from Edinburgh, Scotland - with added gin and swearing. Fri, 25 May 2012 00:12:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Tart http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30604 Tart Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:25:23 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30604 Who let Euan out drinking again? And why didn't they send him round my place? xo Who let Euan out drinking again?
And why didn’t they send him round my place? xo

]]> By: Euan http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30448 Euan Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:12:07 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30448 i love tart. i love tart.

]]> By: Tart http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30349 Tart Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:05:48 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30349 Well personas are a tricksy thing to manage. Especially as a woman, I'll venture to say and you can beat me down for calling in the sexist card. But playing thick or shy or flirty is both easier for women and more necessary as a means to sheild themselves? Is that true? And who knows if one is playing the part or just truly thick? You have to step out to reveal the truth. Dunno myself, my latest situation faced where I had to step out of persona, I decided to come all the way out and be completley honest with the band I was interviewing. And it was the right decision, but then I had a good feeling it would be as I'd done my research. But I had "Tart" in my back pocket just in case ;) of course I'm no artist nor am I a performer. So take that for what it's worth, which is damn near nothing xoxo Well personas are a tricksy thing to manage. Especially as a woman, I’ll venture to say and you can beat me down for calling in the sexist card. But playing thick or shy or flirty is both easier for women and more necessary as a means to sheild themselves? Is that true? And who knows if one is playing the part or just truly thick? You have to step out to reveal the truth.

Dunno myself, my latest situation faced where I had to step out of persona, I decided to come all the way out and be completley honest with the band I was interviewing. And it was the right decision, but then I had a good feeling it would be as I’d done my research. But I had “Tart” in my back pocket just in case ;)

of course I’m no artist nor am I a performer. So take that for what it’s worth, which is damn near nothing xoxo

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30345 Matthew Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:36:53 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30345 Hmm, well I don't know about actual ability per se, but certainly I find the slower ones to be often a little more erratic and bit more unsettling and hence more enjoyable. Whether that constitutes flexibilty or compositional skill I wouldn't know, but I know I like them better than most of the more upbeat numbers. Do you think she's trying extra hard to be 'out there'? I don't know. I got the impression from her gig up here a couple of years ago that she was incredibly shy, so it's possible she's over-played a persona as a way of shielding herself somewhat from some of the personal exposure, but I don't really get the impression it's much more than that. Then again, it's very idiosyncratic, so if you take against this record I can imagine people taking strongly against it. Hmm, well I don’t know about actual ability per se, but certainly I find the slower ones to be often a little more erratic and bit more unsettling and hence more enjoyable. Whether that constitutes flexibilty or compositional skill I wouldn’t know, but I know I like them better than most of the more upbeat numbers.

Do you think she’s trying extra hard to be ‘out there’? I don’t know. I got the impression from her gig up here a couple of years ago that she was incredibly shy, so it’s possible she’s over-played a persona as a way of shielding herself somewhat from some of the personal exposure, but I don’t really get the impression it’s much more than that.

Then again, it’s very idiosyncratic, so if you take against this record I can imagine people taking strongly against it.

]]> By: Drunk Country http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30344 Drunk Country Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:32:17 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30344 <b>TWoTH</b> just suggested the following link as a representation of what it's like listening to this type of "music": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFQZFL0yoo :) TWoTH just suggested the following link as a representation of what it’s like listening to this type of “music”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFQZFL0yoo

:)

]]> By: Drunk Country http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30341 Drunk Country Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:18:18 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30341 I do, entirely & I'm all for innovation & re-invention of the wheel. But I think it's an entirely different level of 'talent' & intent you're talking there with the likes of Waits. That type of composition demonstrates a willingness/ability to allow the core/root to be flexible, fluid, despite its solid underlying structure. There's no flexibility with the likes of DP because I think the overriding need to appear 'out there' masks any real compositional ability. But that's a personal opinion based on an over exposure to this kind of stuff. I do, entirely & I’m all for innovation & re-invention of the wheel. But I think it’s an entirely different level of ‘talent’ & intent you’re talking there with the likes of Waits. That type of composition demonstrates a willingness/ability to allow the core/root to be flexible, fluid, despite its solid underlying structure. There’s no flexibility with the likes of DP because I think the overriding need to appear ‘out there’ masks any real compositional ability. But that’s a personal opinion based on an over exposure to this kind of stuff.

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30339 Matthew Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:08:51 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30339 I rather like a lot of that kind of thing - the stuff which lurches a bit and loses the beat, faffs around and then kicks back in. To the point where stuff which actually holds its rhythm all the way through now kind of bores me - I keep waiting for surprises which never come - so I guess I'm going the other way. I find it similar to the way Tom Waits will wander away from a rhythm or a tune in the middle of a song, just to the point where you think he's lost it altogether, and then slip straight back in perfectly. I'm not saying that this or anything else is even remotely in the same league, but I hope you take my point. I rather like a lot of that kind of thing – the stuff which lurches a bit and loses the beat, faffs around and then kicks back in. To the point where stuff which actually holds its rhythm all the way through now kind of bores me – I keep waiting for surprises which never come – so I guess I’m going the other way.

I find it similar to the way Tom Waits will wander away from a rhythm or a tune in the middle of a song, just to the point where you think he’s lost it altogether, and then slip straight back in perfectly. I’m not saying that this or anything else is even remotely in the same league, but I hope you take my point.

]]> By: Drunk Country http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30338 Drunk Country Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:03:16 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30338 I am using the word 'recording' in this instance, rather than 'music', to loosely describe this end of the glitch spectrum. There is very good examples of glitch/laptop out there, but GP takes it much too far into the realms of self-indulgence & unsyncopated/erratic click clack for the sake of unsyncopated/erratic click clack. I am using the word ‘recording’ in this instance, rather than ‘music’, to loosely describe this end of the glitch spectrum. There is very good examples of glitch/laptop out there, but GP takes it much too far into the realms of self-indulgence & unsyncopated/erratic click clack for the sake of unsyncopated/erratic click clack.

]]> By: Matthew http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30337 Matthew Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:57:19 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30337 Yeah, I can entirely see that. I don't personally have that reaction, but I do think it's perfectly understandable. Yeah, I can entirely see that. I don’t personally have that reaction, but I do think it’s perfectly understandable.

]]> By: Tart http://songbytoad.com/2009/09/george-pringle-salon-des-refuses/#comment-30335 Tart Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:53:32 +0000 http://songbytoad.com/?p=7217#comment-30335 It smacks of the same attitude I dislike in the recent efforts by Eddie Argos, to me. Pretension, contrivance, and privilege which is meant to be some in joke or hip "talent" but which have little to do with creativity or innovation. It smacks of the same attitude I dislike in the recent efforts by Eddie Argos, to me. Pretension, contrivance, and privilege which is meant to be some in joke or hip “talent” but which have little to do with creativity or innovation.

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