Toadcast #135 – The Spaincast
Recorded for you from the sunny, blazing hot mountains of Andalucia, this one is a little late being uploaded because we only just got back to Scotland and I decided I might as well wait until we got home before uploading it rather than charge all around Spain trying to find somewhere to upload from and then sitting around for ages waiting for the damn thing to… well, you get the picture.
I actually spent much of the week editing Toad Session videos, which seems just a tiny little bit pathetic, even to me. Still, editing video whilst sat on the terrace with a beer, overlooking spectacular valley scenery isn’t exactly a hardship, but nevertheless, a holiday should be a bit more holiday-y than that I suppose.
I also think I may have happened to accidentally teach Mrs. Toad’s oldest friend’s kids some truly fucking appalling language too. Honestly, who lets a retard like me anywhere near kids?
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01. The Japanese War Effort – Summer Sun Skateboard (02:20)
02. Benni Hemm Hemm – Shipcracks (06:15)
03. Hobart Smith & Texas Gladden – Down in the Willow Garden (13.39)
04. Blind Willie Johnson – I’m Gonna Run to the City of Refuge (16.24)
05. The Beach Boys – Sloop John B (21.02)
06. Sebastian Dangerfield – The Sycamore Tree (24.49)
07. Animal Magic Tricks – Heavenly Bodies (30.57)
08. Keaton Henson – Oliver Dalston Browning (36.27)
09. Fists – Ace is the Way (40.23)
10. Honeytrap – Little Johnny Winter (45.02)
NAUGHTY MR TOAD!!!!!!!!
we played with sebastian dangerfield yesterday at a christian festival (shut up, we got free hotdogs and it was awesome). they were very good indeed, the band, and the hotdogs.
will have to check out when they are playing live again. no more swearing!!! (as if).
Yeah, I actually have yet to see them myself, which is bloody silly.
think how many more followers the catholic church would have if they gave out hotdogs instead of crackers…. just a thought.
and condoms instead of guilt!
To be fair Mr. Bear, asking the Catholic Church to hand out more sausage, no matter the form, is probably not something you should suggest to them to vocally…
Sloop John B may be the best Beach Boys song but, it’s still shit Matthew. Really really shit.
Well it’s a lot worse now that Phil fucking Brown’s given it a good kicking…
And I can’t find a clip of that anywhere on YouTube. People and their fucking copyright, honestly.
hang on, what about ‘god only knows’??? that’s a tune…
the christians at the festival were very nice, although there was no booze to compliment the sausages. there was, however, a full on cowboy ranch with a massive ranch house and a christian cowboy called bob. there are worse ways to spend your saturday.
…not many that don’t involve being stabbed or raped though
Since when has Sloop John B been the best Beach Boys song?
That’s like saying Shiny Happy People is the best REM song. Just plain wrong.
Incidentally I haven’t listened to the podcast yet, but if Matthew’s been talking about 1960s music there may be more than the odd error in judgement!
The Beach Boys are shit. It’s really that simple. You can’t argue with musical axioms.
and also not very good at swimming
That’s like saying Abba are shit.
You’re not really making a valid musical observation, you’re just demonstrating that you haven’t been paying attention.
The Beach Boys are shit. You can’t argue with musical axioms.
Abba have written some good songs, which is the key difference.
Apart from the very notion of the existence of a musical axiom being incredibly difficult to demonstrate in the first place (other than perhaps saying all knowledge of Forever Changes by Love should be eradicated from the very fabric of human history), suggesting “The Beach Boys are shit” would be one if they could be established is plain silly.
Except of course for the inescapable fact that they are actually shit.
Now, see. You can’t just dismiss something as skilfully crafted and inventive as much of the Beach Boys’ work as “shit”, even if it doesn’t particularly appeal to you.
For example, I don’t have any antique Chippendale dressers in my flat but I do have an Ikea Billy bookcase. Or five.
Now, there are a number of reasons I don’t have any antique Chippendale dressers, they wouldn’t fit in with my lifestyle, they would be largely impractical and I don’t find them particularly aesthetically appealing.
However, I acknowledge the exquisite craftsmanship that went into building Chippendale furniture and I recognise that they occupy a hugely important place in the history of furniture manufacture.
I don’t think they’re “shit” just because I’d rather have a Billy bookcase.
Oh I absolutely, one hundred percent couldn’t agree more. We really need to get away from the pretence of objectivity in music evaluation because really ‘good’ and ‘bad’ are just aggregates of our collective tastes at any one time, rather than any sort of meaningful, inherent quality indelibly vested in a single piece of art.
Hip hop, for example, is a kind of music which I aesthetically despise, but given the genesis of the genre itself and a lot of shared fundamental principles with many things I love, such as folk and punk (particularly in the early days of hip hop) I would never venture to say anything so meaningless as ‘hip hop is shit’, as it is clearly just a form of art from which I take no aesthetic pleasure. And this could of course be for any variety of reasons; social, habitual, chance and so forth.
Whereas the Beach Boys are just shit, really.
I personally like The Beach Boys, and I bet if you fucked their sound with a big hammer you would like them too. But the sound is too lush and nice for you, innit?
Different strokes. Yet you still can’t just regard them as shit because they are not to your taste. I don’t like any metal music of any kind but I wouldn’t write the bands off as shit because it isn’t my thing. So I agree with Dylan, although I have no idea why he is talking about those muscley guys who strip for? Ooh err.
Oh. Fast posts today old boy!
The Beach Boys, basically, are NOT shit. I think all right thinking folks know this.
Madcow very neatly proves my point, in a roundabout sort of way.
They’re shit, basically.
Their Hearts Were Full of Spring is lovely. Too lovely for you.
Also – you had a point? I couldn’t see it in amongst all them big words and sentenzes.
Big words like… ‘shit’?
Shit shit shit shit shit SHIT SHIT!
Net et. Yoo iz a bum-scum!!!
of course it’s totally fine to say the beach boys are shit! what are you folks on about? furniture analogies aside, there are plenty of bands from the same period whom i love ( and sorry dylan, but love are one of these bands) who share similar traits be it in the production style or similarities in the writing… but i still think the beach boys aren’t very good (my views aren’t as extreme as matthews though i see where he’s coming from) and no amount clever production and skillful musicianship will change that. saying they’re shit isn’t some universal statement though, just a way of expressing your own disdain. besides…imagine how dull life would be if you couldn’t occasionally say “the red hot chili peppers are shit”.
No no no, you misunderstand me. The Beach Boys are actually, empirically, axiomatically shit.
Just like Drew Barrymore. Who is also shit.
Can we all just agree that Drew Barrymore is shit and put this to bed?!
She was really good in E.T. though….
SHIT!
Yeah, come to think of it, her portrayal as Josie Geller in ‘Never Been Kissed’ was pretty much my Holden Caulfield.
Not seen it – I am sure it is, indeed, shit though. Going with the theme!
Don’t be so hasty. It might have been ‘fucking shit’.
There must be a youtube video somewhere of Drew singing a Beach Boys song. That would probably require a whole new category, but may well prove the point for once and for all.
well, that was meant to be this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oDMQrjNqE4
Drew Barrymore was really good in Donnie Darko.
Anyone who likes Forever Changes by Love does not – sorry Neil, love ya man, but seriously, come on – get a vote on whether or not the Beach Boys are shit.
Matthew doesn’t get a vote on whether or not the Beach Boys are shit because he doesn’t tend to ever get anything right about 1960s music.
Ben probably gets a vote, but he may prefer to abstain on this occasion as it’s not his specific area of expertise.
So that’s it, isn’t it? A unanimous decision. The Beach Boys are categorically not shit.
The beach boys are good, so are love. Billy bookcases are shit. Zing.
I agree with both of you actually, except for the obvious fact that the Beach Boys are shit obviously, and so is Drew Barrymore.
Really really shit actually. Not just common-or-garden shit, total and utter irredeemable shit. Both of them. Shit.
So dismally shit, in fact, that it’s worth a spot of Three-Post Mentalism to tell Ian that I am going to kick him in the mangina next time I see him for that eye-stabbing, ear-raping, penis-shrivelling abomination of a link.
Leave my mangina out of this!
I’d rather see your mangina than her pig-ugly, self-satisfied erection-napalm of a fucking face.
I never knew you cared!
Just got to the Beach Boys bit in the podcast, and I understand why you’ve put it in there.
Much like Shiny Happy People, it’s the one song non-fans like.
Its appeal lies mainly with such demographics as Radio 2 listeners, prime-time TV audiences, the elderly.
It all makes sense now.
I put them there because they’re shit and I had to listen to them all week.
All week.
And they’re shit.
This is how wrong you are.
You’re as wrong as this:
http://www.btdma.com/public_voted_awards.aspx
Those awards are almost as shit as the Beach Boys. And as we have categorically demonstrated in this thread, that really is very shit indeed.
Have you seen the “independent” category?
Lostprophets? They’re on Sony. Dizzee Rascal’s on Universal. Temper Trap are on one of Warner’s imprints.Â
Probably the closest to independent are Prodigy, even though they used to be on Warner’s, and – annoyingly – Vampire Weekend, who are on the Beggars’ Group’s XL label.
Yeah, I think I applied in the Best Blog category a few years back. Then I saw all the other category nominations and decided not to bother in future.
Bloody hell following internet links (Thanks Ian) can have really shit consequences….this is miles worse than ANY beach boys.
Warning – its a bad picture of Drew, soundtracked by UB40 covering Every Breath You Take………..I promise its shitter than shit and then it gets shitter at about 1 minute….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBaguSi4uWc&feature=related
Jesus I’m going for a lay down. How did UB40 write Signing Off and then do what they did afterwards?
Sorry, winding back here by 45 comments…. Yes! The Barn Festival at the Teen Ranch was a lot of fun! Was Cowboy Bob the nice Aussie bloke dishing out the free scran at the barby??
If anyone is interested in coming to see us play, we (Sebastian Dangerfield that is) are supporting We Were Promised Jetpacks at the Liquid Rooms with Endor on Saturday. I should probably mention that I’ve heard rumblings of it selling out, so apologies in advance if this advert is mis-timed (much like the comment in general)
Also, I’ve tried a lot to like Pet Sounds, but every time I stick it on I skip straight to God Only Knows, listen to it 2 or 3 times, feel like I’ve got what I wanted and put something else on. So, shit-wise, I’m probably sitting on the fence here a little bit purely on the basis of one song.
Jetpacks? Ooh, good slot to land, lads, well done.
They are brothers are they not? Because I’m sure I had one day at Haddowfest (sigh) when I saw Jetpacks, Seb Dangerfield, and some really young band and they were all related in some way. The more you know!
But either way, it is no surprise it has sold out! Any one been to Liquid Rooms since it reopened? Is it nice?!
Well it was a shit place but a good venue before, so any improvement on that (and by that I mean my feet not sticking to the floor every damn time I go on there) would be very much welcome.
Yeh, Adam from WWPJ is my wee brother. And Jetpack drummer Darren’s wee brother Scott plays in Six Storeys High, who are the young band from Haddowfest that Ian is referring to.
Turns out that the Liquid Room floor is as sticky as ever! But the good news is they’ve done away with the giant pillars by the bar, which has had the effect of opening the room out a lot.
I’d really missed the place!